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    01-13-2010, 08:59 PM
  #31
Trained
SillyBunny, I would look towards Buckeye's Grow N Win. I love it!

Luvs2Ride, what are you feeding?

Sweet Feed - is garbage. It is like feeding your kids Sugar Pop's or Fruit Loops on a daily basis as their meals. Everyone else has already stated what is wrong with Sweet Feed, so I don't need to add on at all - but I would stay away from it.

Most barns, not all, but many - feed Sweet Feed because it is cheap. My barn feeds Sweet Feed and due to that, I am buying my own grain because I don't want my horse on that garbage.

My guy is on a high fiber, low sugar diet and doing very well on it.
     
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    01-13-2010, 10:05 PM
  #32
Green Broke
I feed 2 to 3 lbs of Alfalfa pellets, 1/2 cup of apple cider vinegar, and a custom blend of 1/2 cup of flax with vitamins, minerals, and amino acids from horsetech.com (makes a 1 cup serving per-horse).

The breakdown of my custom blend:

Vitamin A 25,000 IU
Vitamin E 1,500 IU
Vitamin C 1,500 mg
B-plex (their own B-Complex mix)
Biotin 10 mg
Iodine (I) 0.63
Iron (Fe) 300 mg
Copper (Cu) 100 mg
Manganese (Mn) 100 mg
Zinc (Zn) 300 mg
Selenium (Se) 2 mg
Cobalt (Co) 0.5 mg
Magnesium (Mg) 3,000 mg
Chromium Piccolinate 1.25 mg
DL-Methionine 1,750 mg
L-Lysine 2,500 mg
L-Threonine 1,250 mg

I have high magnesium to help the moody girls and "fat" horses, high copper and selenium because our soil is deficeint in those, high amino acids because we have limited grazing, and a little extra biotin to help keep those barefeet growing well (less than what's in most biotin hoof supplements though). This blend costs me about $0.90 a day per-horse, which is cheaper than buying a flax product and extra amino acids separate from a vit/min supplement. Plus I have the added benefit of changing the blend should my hay supplier change. Horsetech.com will custom blend in almost any ingredient for you.
     
    01-13-2010, 10:18 PM
  #33
Yearling
So I give my horse cob with molasses and she gets a small amount. I give it to her as a little something for all the work that I do with her. Would someone suggest something else that might be better. The horses at the barn I board at get LMF mixed with Super Supplements. There are horses that were probably cheap and the more expensive horses and they still get the same grain. Too be honest I don't care about price of the horse. I get what I can afford and live with it. I would never take offense to the statement in the beginning. People think my horse is expensive and I got her for free.
     
    01-13-2010, 11:11 PM
  #34
Green Broke
Plain whole or crimped oats are a good "treat". Most horses love them, and they have less sugar and starch than Wet COB.
     
    01-14-2010, 12:55 AM
  #35
Yearling
We have tried other diets for our horses, and they all seem to do better on the feed we feed. It's a 10% Protein sweet feed made locally. Everybody has shiny coats, a little duller in the winter but not overly so. Everybody is actually very healthy, as per our vet. We even tried switching them to a pelleted feed, and it just didn't work out the way it was supposed to. Everybody(except the growing babies) gets less than 2 lbs a feeding, and everybody is in decent weight. My pony has been on the same feed for 14 years, and is not IR, and has never foundered. We also feed a very high quality grass hay, and everybody is sane and healthy and happy. Everybody digests their food nicely(no bits of oat/pellet/corn/etc in poop piles). However, what works for one horse may not work for another. It's all about trial and error, and since it works for our horses we have no reason to change it.
     
    01-14-2010, 08:21 AM
  #36
Showing
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Originally Posted by MIEventer    
SillyBunny, I would look towards Buckeye's Grow N Win. I love it!
If you have it in stores around. I used to buy Buckeyes but the only store around doesn't sell it anymore - I asked and they say everyone is getting Purina these days.
     
    01-14-2010, 08:40 AM
  #37
Banned
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Originally Posted by kassierae    
Just wanted to say that our horses have been on sweet feed for 30+ years and we have never had a problem with it. In fact, we have less colics than the barn I ued to work at, which feeds Blue Seal pellets. Our horses are very healthy, and not hot in the slightest bit. Then again, they are out nearly 24/7. We have never had problems feeding sweet feed.
I have fed sweet feed forever. I ran endurance for about 20 years and my guy was fed sweet feed.
I pay about $10 for a 55 pound bag. When working hard my endurance horses were fed an equal mixture of steam rolled corn, rolled oats and sweat feed and often a little extra molasses thrown in with hot water to make a wet mix. I fed about 7 pounds at a feeding.
I have never ran into a problem with this type of feeding and I do often give him a good graining right after a hard workout before putting him back in the field.
I even water him when he is hot on the trail.
     
    01-14-2010, 04:03 PM
  #38
Trained
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I even water him when he is hot on the trail.
This has been shown by research and experience (mostly that of endurance riders) not to be the big no-no it was thought to be.

Feeding sweet feed however is being shown by research and experience to not be the best diet choice as it was thought to be.
     
    01-14-2010, 04:24 PM
  #39
Started
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SillyBunny, I would look towards Buckeye's Grow N Win. I love it!
I don't have a buckeye dealer around, well none listed on the website. I did look into it as a ration balancer. I ended up getting a free choice from purena: Nature’s Essentials® Free Balance® Supplement. It was $20 for the tub so I figured I'd give it a try.

I'll keep searching for a buckeye dealer, I really do like their products.
     
    01-15-2010, 09:47 AM
  #40
Trained
That stinks that you guys cannot get the Buckeye Safe N Easy.

I feel your pain though, I had Nelson on Tripple Crown Senior and LOVED it, he gained weight beautifully on it and kept his weight, and then - feed stores in my area stopped supplying it. I was so upset.

I put Nelson back on Purina Senior, but he just isn't gaining weight on it. Even with the fattening suppliment Ultimate Finish 100. He has alot of hay infront of him throughout the day *afalfa/timothy/brome*, and I was hoping that since he has been on stall rest since the begining of January *He has the rest of the month* that he'd plump up - but nope.

He not only lost more weight due to the stress of his leg, he's lost all of his muscle mass.

It was suggested for me to put him on Alfalfa Pellets, which I was going to, but after discussing it with my Vet and Eventing Coach - I was highly advised against it for him. He is prone to founder and I was told that if overdosed on Alfalfa he can founder.

So I am thinking of doing 1/2 and 1/2 of Ultium and Purina Senior. I don't know what to do. I want him back on the Tripple Crown Senior - but nooOOoOoOooo, there are no more suppliers. They all are now Buckeye and Purina.
     

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