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    06-05-2010, 02:18 AM
  #1
Yearling
Thrush...

So when I had horses with my parents, thrush was a sign of bad husbandry. If you didn't clean your horse's hooves regularly or left them in a dirty stall you get thrush. My parents would always remind me if I was being lazy as a teenager!

So imagine my surprise when I see Jackson has thrush today! He stepped on a pulled shoe two weeks ago and I've been keeping his rear left hoof bandaged with ichthammol per the vet's request. When I took off the bandage today I noticed that under all the ichthammol blobs was thrush!

At least, that's what it looked like to me and the ladies available at the barn. It smelled awful and it was flaky and white. But that hoof was bandaged and the thrush was only where the ichthammol had been! In the hole the vet dug out and towards his heel where I had wiped an extra blob.

So the current theory is that the ichthammol pulled the moisture from the hoof and the bandage deprived of of oxygen and voila, thrush? Does that make sense?

So my real question is this: do I need to call the 'on-call' vet out this weekend or is treating it with Thrush Buster and keeping it unwrapped good enough?

I can't call and talk with my vet until Monday. I'm supposed to keep the hoof bandaged with the ichthammol until tues/wends but tonight I left it unbandaged so it could air out.

Barn advice was to give it a few days to see if the Thrush Buster works. I'm just very very nervous because the vets dug out a hole in his foot where the puncture was (to drain for any poss infection/abscess) and now it's got this nasty bacteria in it on top of everything else!

He's not swollen or hot but he's limping and uncomfortable. Weekend vet call time or wait and see? ?
     
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    06-05-2010, 02:47 AM
  #2
Green Broke
I could be wrong but I always through thrush was more of a mold like mildew than a bacteria....which is why air deprived, moist hooves are the best breeding ground for it...so yes it does make sense. Every horse I have ever known that has had the sole of it's foot bandaged for any length of time, or had pads without a thrush preventative, have gotten thrush...not just the ones that stand in mud or dirty stalls.

Thrush does eat away at the frog and sole and my trainer is currently working with a horse that may be permanently lame due to someone not treating it's thrush and it caused permanent damage. I think it takes months for this to happen though, not just a few days or weeks.

You are sort of at a quandary....I think I would definitely get advice from a vet. Normally for just thrush I would say no, but with that puncture you could be headed for unwanted trouble prolonging the horse's recovery time. The treatment for thrush is quite opposite the treatment for the puncture..which is why I would seek vet advice.
     
    06-05-2010, 02:49 AM
  #3
Banned
I used ThrushBuster on my TB's hooves and it never seemed to get rid of his thrush. Over the winter, every 6 weeks at his farrier appointment, the same spot at the tip of his right rear hoof would have thrush. I cleaned his hooves out daily, at most every other day, and he would still get it. My only conclusion is that he stands in his own pee. I'm treating what should be his last case with a mix of DMSO and iodine. Mix it with a 1:1 ratio in a separate bottle (itll get warm when you first mix it) and apply every day for a week, then every other day for a week, and then every few days and so on. So far its working REALLY well (our farrier boards at our barn, so he looks at everyone's feet basically every other week free of charge) and his feet look fantastic.

The added benefit is this mixture will also be fine to accidentally get into the puncture wound--iodine will disinfect and then almost immediately dry out, while the DMSO will hopefully "sweat" out any abscess that may want to form.
     
    06-05-2010, 02:58 AM
  #4
Yearling
Thank you for the advice! I feel like such a nerd, hovering over this thread for responses!

I'm really mostly concerned, as Cinny noted, that the treatments for the puncture wound seem contradictory to the treatments for thrush and I'm not sure what takes priority and if the thrush will do serious damage because it's located in and around the hole! :S

Wait until monday and treat for thrush until then and call the vet for a consult or call out the expensive on-call guy this weekend? :S
     
    06-05-2010, 03:07 AM
  #5
Green Broke
I am really really hesitant to say...because I am NOT a vet or a farrier. I know what I would do if it were my horse, but....that would be my horse I'm risking. I don't think it's going to be something for an expensive on call person UNLESS you see some dramatic changes such as severe lameness or any heat, swelling, or bad smelling drainage comes out of that wound.

As for the keeping it covered as the vet said, or not keeping it covered because off the thrush...THAT is where someone could go wrong in advising you so it may just have to be your own call. I don't think that a thrush remedy will hurt either way however, especially if you are careful not to get it in the puncture because it may burn and sting.
     
    06-05-2010, 10:34 PM
  #6
Super Moderator
The best remedy for thrush is access of oxygen at all times. If you can keep hoof clean and unwrapped for part of the day that's the best way to go. I had to wrap my horse's hoof for month this winter after she cut off the frog really bad. I kept her hoof unwrapped in clean stall for the night, so it could "breath". I also put kopertex (per my vet's advice) once a day to fight the infection and thrush there.
     
    06-05-2010, 11:15 PM
  #7
Yearling
Thanks again everyone! I'm leaving it uncovered and putting thrush-fighter in it daily. It looks better and while still flaky it doesn't have that nasty smell anymore so I think that's a good first sign!

He seems considerably more comfortable today too. I think he hated his hoof being wrapped. He's still pretty sore and walking stiffly. I'm not sure how to grade lameness, maybe a two at this point?


I have the vet coming out on Friday already to check up on the puncture wound and I can call and ask for advice on Monday so I'm going to leave it at that and save the expense of the weekend emergency call :)
     
    06-06-2010, 07:50 AM
  #8
Green Broke
Oh wow, I can barely see the limp..I've never been able to "get" the number system myself, but I've seen horses with worse limps being worked. You are such a good horsey mommy :)
     

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