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    05-05-2013, 12:23 PM
  #51
Foal
I just wanted to say I think he looks like a sweet boy and I hope he gets up to full health soon!
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    05-06-2013, 08:22 AM
  #52
Yearling
Wow, he looks so much better already! Those oats will be giving him plenty of energy, to say the least. Feeding him in the stall is a great idea, it's sounding likely that the other horses were the problem. Great work on your part to act so quickly on the advice you've been given.

I can also see where he gets his good looks from - his father is stunning!
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    05-07-2013, 11:02 AM
  #53
Green Broke
He is improving already. Good for you for taking such quick action. His sire is a lovely horse!
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    05-07-2013, 12:05 PM
  #54
Trained
I can't believe I didn't see this thread...
OP( means original poster, by the way), you said you can get St. Hippolyt. EXCELLENT feed. Reformmuesli is GOOD. They also have THE best hay pellets I have ever seen in 45 years with horses, PRE ALPIN. Get that, if you can, and, since you go there twice a day, give him 2.5kg each time, soaked, so he can eat it easily, and some Reform Muesli with it, about 1kg each feeding.
Other possibility, since the barn provides oats, get Struktur Energetikum instead of the Reform Muesli, and give 1kg a day together with the oats. That will give him all the vitamins and minerals he needs.
I suspect he also needs worming, don't know if you can get dewormers in a pharmacy or have to get it from a vet with prescription( yes folks, EU requires a prescription for dewormers), but ask for one containing Ivermectin and Praziquantel. You should have EQUIMAX, it's available EU-wide.
Have the vet take a good look at his teeth again, he's young and could still have problems with changing from baby- to adult teeth.

Once you have the Pre Alpine and the St. Hippolyt feed, you can cut down and bring him one carrot and one apple a day....he will love you just the same
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    05-07-2013, 04:30 PM
  #55
Foal
Hello again,
Thank you for your nice comments on my buckskin boy :) I've got some good and bad news... The good news is that the lady set up a diet plan for 2 months and she will monitor his progress and change it if necessary. He is going to have two meals a day (and I will give him feed it in order to be 100% sure other horses don't eat his food):
Oats - 1 measurement buckets like this http://images.sklepy24.pl/42534358/6...-paszy-2kg.jpg
St Hippolyt ReformMusli G - 2 measurement buckets
St Hippolyt Gemuse Krauter Mineralen - vitamins - 150g
After he eats regularly he feels much better - I can see it in his eyes and behaviour.
The bad news is: the really good vet with good equipment is visiting my horse on Tuesday 14.05.2013... I can't wait.
Tomorrow, there is going to be another vet and I will also ask him what he thinks.
Equine massage also tomorrow (second time).

But the real bad news is: I talked with a vet who visited my friend's barn and I just described my horse's toe dragging and he was quite sceptic about it and told me that he can even develop ataxia . I started to cry :(

This is my boy from today, can you see any improvement, or is it just me dreaming?
(by the end of the video you can see little disobedience :P but it was difficult for him to concentrate on me because there were children running outside and screaming).
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    05-07-2013, 08:28 PM
  #56
Trained
He is looking much better already. The toe dragging was most likely lack of strength due to being so thin. Ataxia? No way
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    05-08-2013, 07:40 PM
  #57
Green Broke
I would suggest an extruded feed to add more fat to his diet instead of more vitamins.
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    05-08-2013, 08:20 PM
  #58
Started
Ataxia? I really don't think so. He is looking so much better.

Always remember, you know your horse best. You see him every day. I know that we rely on the expertise of vets, farriers etc. But educate yourself and take the other opinions graciously, but not as a definite diagnosis if it just doesn't sound right. Those professionals are only human too despite their credentials.
     
    05-10-2013, 09:25 AM
  #59
Green Broke
Methinks you should stop talking to vets and just get on with training your horse. Really.

There is NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS HORSE.
     
    05-10-2013, 06:19 PM
  #60
Trained
I'm no expert, but I think his movement is fine - more weight and more training is all he needs. He's very pretty and has a lovely bouncy step. Just wait until he's at full weight and has good muscle tone! Wow. He's going to be awesome.
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