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    05-14-2013, 06:04 PM
  #61
Foal
If I followed your pieces of advice, I would help my horse :)
REALLY :) You are great. The vet said exactly what you have said and even prescribed Equimax as deserthorsewoman mentioned.

The vet examined him, checked even his heart rate. He hasn't got ataxia or spavin. His spine is OK but because he is so thin, it looks that strange. I need to feed him (and he said that the present diet is good) and exercise him - lunge him and ride (especially uphill and downhill).
One reason he has lost weight so quickly might be the other horses and the way they were fed - very stressful situation for a low rank horse. He is going to be given AbPrazole Plus to help his stomach. I don't know whether ulcers are curable? He is regaining weight quickly, maybe there won't be the need to take him to clinic and perform gastroscopy.
These were good news for me. However, I feel sorry for him that something like that had happened. He lost over 100kg in a very short period of time. I feel guilty but little could I do because of Easter and this long may weekend in my country... :(
But I am really grateful because you gave me very precious remarks about feed, exercise etc.
Thank you.
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    05-14-2013, 07:48 PM
  #62
Trained
Already better!!!
The ulcers will heal. To prevent them in the future, make sure he always has hay or grass. As long as he always has something n the stomach, the stomach acids will digest the food, not the stomach lining. If you can find lucerne, you could give him a little before his grain meals. Lucerne buffers the acids.
Oh, and it looks like you found a good vet. Keep him
Now we want to see progress pictures, like every two weeks or so
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    05-14-2013, 07:57 PM
  #63
Showing
He doesn't associate you with his weight loss. He doesn't even know he's lost weight.
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    05-15-2013, 03:07 AM
  #64
Foal
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He doesn't associate you with his weight loss. He doesn't even know he's lost weight.
I know that but I could see him loose his enthusiasm for rides and I saw he was sad because his behaviour changed. Now he bucks in the pasture and that is uplifting :)
I feel guilty because I am his owner and this is partly my fault. My unawareness. But you really REALLY helped me a lot.
     
    05-15-2013, 06:53 AM
  #65
Yearling
What matters is that you are aware now. Everyone has to learn sometime and somehow. You've already done better than a lot of people in the world who are so stubborn that they refuse to take advice, let alone from people they don't even know!

You acted quickly, and the progress easily outweighs any faults there may have been on your part. He is looking wonderful, and this new vet sounds great!

I guess what I'm saying is don't feel guilty. He could have easily gotten to the state he was in on his own, but he couldn't make the trip back to happy and healthy without your help. You clearly love him so very much.
     
    05-16-2013, 08:34 AM
  #66
Green Broke
REALLY nice horse. Now you know and, as I said (from 3000 miles or more away and for free) there is NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS HORSE!

Feed him, ride him and train him.. Or send him overseas to me. :)
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    05-17-2013, 12:01 PM
  #67
Yearling
Very happy you've received some peace of mind. It's easy to panic when a vet gives you wrong information.

He will be just fine. I know others have said that but sometimes you need to hear it from a vet to rest your worries. That's natural. I do it all the time!

Everyone reaches a point where they need to learn something more than what they already knew. Don't beat yourself up over this. He will be alright and you learned a lot about horse feed and their needs. It's alright to question a vet and we love that you came to us for opinions and to seek out help.

I'm a bit surprised that the facility owner didnt step in when he/she saw the weight drop, and waited for you to say something before taking any kind of action... But I guess now you know that you have to pay close attention to how the facility owner runs things and ask questions or make requests if you horse isn't doing well, since they won't take action on their own.
     
    05-17-2013, 09:58 PM
  #68
Foal
I'm so happy to hear and see the progress on your boy! I can't wait to see him in top shape.

You are being a wonderful owner. I wish more people cared as much as you do
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    05-21-2013, 09:17 PM
  #69
Foal
Hi,
I'm also from Poland. Your horse has roach back, and a lot of horses I saw with this conformation issue are dragging their hind feet a bit. Currently my friend has a 13-years old gelding with the same issue, but his sound and happy, so it's just how he is. So maybe it's just that. Also seeing how thin Your horse was, check not only the oats/ grains, but if he gets enough hay during winter. It's veeeeery common in Poland to feed horses quite big amounts of grain and too little hay, and it's often causing them to get thin (I run my own stable and also have boarding horses - most of them look thinner than they should when they come to my place, even though they were fed quite a lot of grains, the problem in our country often lies within the hay/grass - most horses don't get free hay/free grass in winter/ summer, how they should in my opinion, and grains cannot compensate this in most cases). My experience shows that most stables in Poland feed in winter sth like: 5kg of oats + 5-6kg of hay (my stable 1-2kg of oats + free choice hay - it's usually about 10-12kg - for a horse working approximately 3-4times a week - and all the owners cannot belive how they horses become normal weight on this diet). So check if he gets enough forage. Also how old is Your horse? Was he always roach backed? Because if he got thin so fast, as You say, and the back got like this, think about the ulcers or similar gastric problem. Is he nervous when eating/ has some "stable vices"/ some pains in this areas: ? I saw Your videos, It's May now, so if he's eating grass he should be fatter now, especially he has thin neck and withers, but if he's young horse, as I suspect, it should be ok, but it's even more important for him to eat properly when his young. Hope something will help You :)
     
    05-22-2013, 08:10 PM
  #70
Trained
Visenna, that horse does not have a roach back. It is thin; it is out of shape and might have a hunters bump, but given the improvements to diet and then the OP will be able to exercise the horse more so he will gain some muscle, he will be even better as time goes on.

I see you are new to the forum, so a point to make is to read the previous posts in a thread to see what has happened since the thread was started. Some threads die after a day or two... some go on for months - so there can be much that you miss if you read only the opening post.
     

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