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post #1 of 5 Old 02-17-2011, 01:01 PM Thread Starter
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Toe dragging mare. Agh!

My mare is a chronic hind toe dragger, and as a result, and partly due to a ******ed barn owner that I am soon to be leaving, she had worn her hoof almost to the sensitive tissue. I tried to keep her mostly confined to keep the wear low as possible and I kept finding her out in the big herd in the big pasture.

I tried for weeks to work with the barn owner to get a farrier out, and every time I would think she had one coming, it never happened. I got numbers to call, but every time I was about to call, she had a farrier coming out that day. *Sigh*

Amber finally got done and the farrier said, as I already knew, her previous trim was really crappy. That was from the old owners farrier. He also said her hind legs needed to be stretched back and out because her hips were out of alignment. Then recommended, as I suspected, shoes for the toe dragging.

I'm very much against shoes unless the horse absolutely needs them (and I don't think she is at this point yet). There are just so many negatives. And Amber was also a chronic tripper with shoes, and I refuse to ride a horse that trips that much because it's just outright dangerous.

I have got to find a way around this, because she may as well be a pasture puff if she gets shoes on. The farrier recommends shoes, but obviously there is so much more to be done here before we can say with absolute certainty that nothing else will fix it. Obviously the stretching of the hind legs, and maybe just wait and see if the balanced trim makes a difference.
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post #2 of 5 Old 02-17-2011, 01:05 PM
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I'm a little confused as to why you're so against back shoes for her. I have had two chronic hind leg draggers, and use shoes with modified toe clips to protect the front of the hoof. A good trim won't last long if she continues to wear the wall down. Do you have any pics of her feet? Does she have any other issues in her hocks or stifles? Is she really pushing with her hind end when she's being ridden?

I've spent most of my life riding horses. The rest I've just wasted.
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After hearing more about what the farrier had in mind, I agreed to do the shoes. He was suggesting use them as a temporary protection while she learns to use her hind end.

She is, more or less, just out of shape and needs to learn how to carry herself. She can be lazy as far as using her back end goes. Which is the whole issue here. She was progressing before we had a week off due to bad weather, and when I went out after it was over, I found the issue had gotten massively worse.

The farrier did note her hip was out of alignment, and suggested we stretch her quite a bit in the next few weeks, and if it is not better, call a chiro. Which, I fully intend to follow through on. She just had a vet check in December and was fine, so I feel it is out of alignment from some of the recent feet issues. She also had a heel bruise from kicking her stall and was tip-toeing for a few days. The stress from that and the sore toes I am sure did it, despite me making as much effort as possible to keep her well.

Never again am I going through this crap, is all I can say. And neither is Amber. I still can't believe I made the mistake of letting the barn owner continue to lead me on and on about how she called the farrier, and fail to follow my turn out instructions for Amber. We are moving in less than 2 weeks...
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post #4 of 5 Old 02-22-2011, 12:53 AM
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You said, "had a vet check in Dec....".

Is vet a chiro?

Also, good on you for allowing shoes. In addition to things your doing now, you need to get her to engage hind end while riding .Strengthen the hind end and she'll pick her feet up better.

For all your farrier needs, GET BNT!
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post #5 of 5 Old 02-22-2011, 01:41 AM Thread Starter
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I meant the vet would have discovered the issue. He flexed her, watched her move, so it would have been noticed.

Yeah. I'm not one of those crazy barefoot crusaders, just someone who likes to keep the feet barefoot and natural if at all possible while staying sound, but after hearing more of what he had to say, the choice is obvious.

What keeps my mare sound and able to work and work towards solving this for good is all I'm interested in. Cost and personal preference aside! :)
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