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    11-30-2008, 08:15 PM
  #11
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Sorry for the double post, but how does this feed sound:

Purina Mills Strategy® Professional Formula GX
     
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    11-30-2008, 08:17 PM
  #12
Yearling
She's not doing that much work--in all honesty, you don't need to get THAT in depth with feed information. Sometimes seeing whats in your hay and getting it analyzed and then going crazy over your feed--its not necessary, and I've seen way too many riders go crazy over feeds (which ends up to more colic episodes!)

A 10% or 12% pelleted horse feed will be fine. All you have to do is make sure that you feed the recommended amount on the back of the bag--if you don't, your horse won't get adequate nutrients. You won't need a complete feed, and she really doesn't need that much energy because she's not in any kind of heavy or moderate work. I recommend pelleted horse feed 100% of the time--when I went to the university of findlay, 299 horses out of 300 got the same pelleted feed, and they were all fat and healthy. (One ooooldie got sweet feed because he refused to eat anything else.)

Sometimes, feeding really is that simple. ;)
     
    11-30-2008, 08:24 PM
  #13
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Originally Posted by mayfieldk    
She's not doing that much work--in all honesty, you don't need to get THAT in depth with feed information. Sometimes seeing whats in your hay and getting it analyzed and then going crazy over your feed--its not necessary, and I've seen way too many riders go crazy over feeds (which ends up to more colic episodes!)

A 10% or 12% pelleted horse feed will be fine. All you have to do is make sure that you feed the recommended amount on the back of the bag--if you don't, your horse won't get adequate nutrients. You won't need a complete feed, and she really doesn't need that much energy because she's not in any kind of heavy or moderate work. I recommend pelleted horse feed 100% of the time--when I went to the university of findlay, 299 horses out of 300 got the same pelleted feed, and they were all fat and healthy. (One ooooldie got sweet feed because he refused to eat anything else.)Sometimes, feeding really is that simple. ;)
Thanks Mayfield ... Yeah, I feel so overwhelmed by this. Lol. I do do light work with her. I'll be riding her about twice a week and in the summer, a lot more than that.

I'm also looking at Purina's Horseman's Edge. It's a pelleted feed. Is that in the category you are talking about?

Also, another horse at my barn gets fed Tiz Whiz. Is this a good feed?
     
    11-30-2008, 10:19 PM
  #14
Yearling
I'm not a huge fan of purina--they're overpriced, and often want you to feed way too much in order to get the required nutrients (they wanted me to feed my weanling 15 pounds a day. ...not happening! I went to a more concentrated feed). Purina also has a history of other 'things' getting into their horse feeds.

I've never heard of Tiz Whiz, hehe.

I would go to your local feed store, and see what they have to offer. I feed my horses one step up from the cheapest horse feed, and they're shiny, healthy, and have plenty of energy when it comes down to show season. Overpriced feeds are just capitalizing on a market of people who seem to think that their horses aren't getting enough nutrients/energy from pasture, hay and 'normal' feeds. I say they are silly. :P Usually, almost any 10/12% pelleted feed will work.

I've seen old trainers just feed corn and have ridiculously good results--but it's up to you and the individual horse, of course ;).

But yes, pelleted feed would be the kind I'm talking about. If you are going to ride her a lot more in the summer, I would give her a maintenance pellet for the winter (which my boys are on--it's low protein, so they don't get excess energy), and then wean her over in the summer if she needs it—some horses don’t. My show horse gets put on a 12% show feed just to give him that extra protein he needs to help rebuild his muscles, but he’s worked 6 times a week and shown on the weekends. So, it’s relative. ;) Even if you’re riding every day, you still might not be doing enough to really tax her system—it depends on the type of work.
     
    12-01-2008, 12:45 AM
  #15
Yearling
If I were to pick a purina feed I would pick strategy but I actually like triple crown feeds because of the higher fat content and better ingredients. I would like to add to something about alfalfa and use it as an example.

When calculating your horse's feed rations, you calculate roughage first. Example, for the person who fed only alfalfa as a form of roughage.. Alfalfa is high in calcium which is why it is important to calculate your horse's requirements. Its important to have a proper Calcium:Phosphorus ratio because of calcium deposits especially in the head among other things.

A great book is Horses :A guide to selection, care, and enjoyment by J. Warren Evans has a great section in Equine Nutrition with all the requirements and feed compositions and will show you how to calculate your horses needs.
     
    12-01-2008, 02:43 AM
  #16
Weanling
I feed Strategy and I like it (so does Lily ) Have you thought about Equine Senior or something in that category?
     
    12-01-2008, 10:13 AM
  #17
Started
OK didn't she just colic or am I thinking of somebody else's horse...

The best diet is high fiber high nutrition in small amounts... so think free choice hay and a product like Enrich32

The % means nothing it is the amount fed you want to look at

Good toplines come from good protien sources and amino acids along with good exercise


Corn sits at around 67% NSC (sugars and starches)
Oats around 50%
Barley around 60%
Molasses around 55% but the inclusion rate is normally under 7% of a ton just enough to get the dust down

Molasses are normally NOT the problem with textured feeds it is the corn and other grain products

Many pelleted feeds ARE SWEET FEED with the NSC as high as 60% in some!! The look of the feed doesn't matter it what is in the feed that makes it sweet

Tiz Whiz most of thier feeds include corn I stay away from corn at all cost ... too many problems with it and not enough benefits

What kind of hay is she on?? How much weight wise per day ?? Average grass flake on two string bale is 3 to 5 lbs

There are alot of ways to do it depending on how much work you wanna do

Do you wanna save moeny and do the work ?
Or do you want easy feeding??

IMO PUrina is junk feed along with Nutrena
If possible I say stick with a company that is regional like Kent, Seminole,Assurance
     
    12-01-2008, 01:42 PM
  #18
Yearling
With feeding a horse that is basically a couch potato.... (worked less than 3-5 times per week the best advise I've ever had is KISS ( keep it simple silly)

Good quality hay that has been analysed feed according to their body weight or free choice and possibly a complete alfalfa based pellet feed according to the bag instructions.

Do you have a Co-Op store where you live? Often you will find their feed store managers a wealth of information.

About a year or so ago I was swayed by the Nutrena rep and switched the boy's over to Safe Choice. Fast forward 8-9 months and I have two horse's who's feet were a mess and the older one was down right grumpy. Soooo, we slowly switched back to what we had been doing. That is basically good quality hay feed by weight and in the am and pm one pound each of soaked low starch/low sugar cubes with one cup of complete pellets at each feeding.

I hear ya when fit comes to reading feed bags, but in all honesty unless you have a horse who is in heavy training, a foal at their side or specific health issues LESS is MORE!! Most horse's don't need all the extra's.
     
    12-01-2008, 01:55 PM
  #19
Started
Horse's don't NEED Grains at all even a horse needing weight... what they do need is to be supplemented FOR YOUR AREA ... being in Canada it is hard for ME to help you I ahve no clue what the minerals and such are like in the soils and hays...
     
    12-01-2008, 02:10 PM
  #20
Yearling
I didn't notice Jubilee was in Ontario. Ontario like BC has next to nothing when it comes to Selenium in our soil so you might want to consider a pellet that meets the daily requirements.
     

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