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post #31 of 41 Old 04-17-2013, 07:01 PM Thread Starter
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I do have to agree with you anebel. I know a horse can contract it after being tested and coming up negative... but the only way we can even ATTEMPT to stop or control it is by diligent testing. But, on the other hand, it sounds like lots of people down there don't bother and it sounds like I'm going to have a hard time finding a place to keep my horses where they do require tests.

On that note, I contacted another trainer today who does require coggins tests. She will keep Atlas at her place in quarantine though and do the test there which is great. I just sent her an email full of questions and hopefully I hear back today because she sounds pretty good. She's based out of Gibbons, AB and her name is Amy Moffitt, have you heard of her?
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post #32 of 41 Old 04-17-2013, 07:05 PM
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Unless there is a swamp fever outbreak anywhere within travelling distance or you are travelling, or breeding, a coggins is as said, outdated before you get the results in the mail.
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post #33 of 41 Old 04-17-2013, 07:10 PM Thread Starter
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I agree, and I'm going to go with the flow because obviously you can't change an entire way of thinking... but I'm just saying that up here it's required for EVERYTHING, and I think that's a pretty effective way of trying to control it (by detecting positive horses and euthing them)

I'd be devastated if mine tested positive, but I think that's a pretty selfish reason to not test.

That said, it sounds like no one tests for it down south so why would I bother unless I need to take my horse somewhere that requires it? it's pointless if no one else does.
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post #34 of 41 Old 04-17-2013, 07:14 PM
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I hadn't even HEARD of coggins before I came to this forum, I've never had a trainer / show / barn even suggest it, and my vet has never brought it up. It isn't mentioned in sales ads that I've seen (and I'm not talking $1 - $1000 horses). I'm honestly a bit ignorant to what it IS exactly, I guess I'm going to be doing a bit of research.
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post #35 of 41 Old 04-17-2013, 07:26 PM
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so.... you SK people, can someone answer this for me? (I called two vet clinics in Meadow Lake and neither could tell me what vaccines were recommended for horses...)

I'm doing the 5 way on both horses. I've never vaccinated before and actually don't know anyone who does up here. But this shot includes Eastern + Western Encephalomyoalitis (hahahahaha, whatever), Influenza, Tetanus and Rhino. Are there any others I REALLY should do? I see there was only one confirmed West Nile case in an equine in 2010, but should I do that anyway? (It's $50 though!) What about strangles? Rabies?
Give Corman Park Vetrenary a call in Saskatoon and ask to speak to Harvey. He has yo be one of the most honest vets I know.
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post #36 of 41 Old 04-17-2013, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by alexischristina View Post
I hadn't even HEARD of coggins before I came to this forum, I've never had a trainer / show / barn even suggest it, and my vet has never brought it up. It isn't mentioned in sales ads that I've seen (and I'm not talking $1 - $1000 horses). I'm honestly a bit ignorant to what it IS exactly, I guess I'm going to be doing a bit of research.
Coggins is a blood test that tests for EIA (Equine Infectious Anemia)

EIA has no vaccine or cure and most horses get put down or die on their own.
It isn't contagouis from horse to horse, but from horse to mosquito to horse.

Horses are scared of two things... Things that move and things that don't.
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post #37 of 41 Old 04-17-2013, 09:19 PM
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You obviously didn't hear of the big incidence quite a ways back in Alberta. If I recall, one horse tested positive and the thugs moved in, lined all his horses up (something like 10 head and shot them. It was done alone the roadway so it was easier for the rendering plant to pick them up. His family was horrified, not only at the carnage, but some were family favorites. And a huge financial loss to boot. Believe me the sh*t hit the fan when it made national news. The test is good only at the time blood is drawn and it goes to a provincial lab. If it's positive, a provincial vet will do a retest in case of error. If is again positive the horse has to be put down within so many days. EIA was prevalent during the war in Europe, it killed as many horses as the battles they were in. We need to pressure the research community to come up with something to give the horses immunity.

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post #38 of 41 Old 04-17-2013, 09:36 PM
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Never required coggins here for taking my horses to shows,training or breeding,just UTD vaccines & worming. Never heard of the trainer you mentioned . I'm mostly just familiar with some western trainers {colt starting} & Breed show trainers.
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post #39 of 41 Old 04-18-2013, 10:38 AM
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I'm interested to see what will happen in the next little bit, a EIA positive horse was found up in northern Alberta, near Fort Vermilion a few weeks ago. My friend and her horse came into direct contact with them at a arena they had hauled in to. Luckily it's not easily transferred by direct contact, and my friend definitely had a nerve wracking couple of weeks with her horse locked down in quarantine and waiting for test results for her horse. They came back negative thank god, but the owner of the EIA positive horse had no idea it was positive when they hauled in.

It definitely is still around, as much as the horse world thinks it isn't, and tries to ignore it:P

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post #40 of 41 Old 04-18-2013, 04:10 PM Thread Starter
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it is DEFINITELY still around, throughout Canada including BC,AB,SK,MB, and the YT at least (I haven't looked into further east) so I just don't understand how it continues to be ignored. I think the Yukon has a good approach with requiring a test every year to be done on any horse that goes to a show, clinic, most boarding places, etc. Yes, a horse can get it after being tested, but at least it will be detected upon the next testing.

I know a bunch of horses tested positive in SK last year and I read on the SK equine site that they were going to start pushing for coggins test requirements at more shows... but who knows if it'll actually happen. I think it should, but I'm just one little fishy in the sea :)

I do feel a little unsafe taking my horses down to provinces where the testing is NOT a big thing... but I do know it's just a teeny tiny chance that they might get it and I guess I can't keep them in a bubble :p
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