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    01-03-2013, 03:31 AM
  #1
Weanling
Truth about fly-spray vs. garlic supplements.

Hi all... So I live in South Africa, where the dreaded African Horse Sickness, carried by biting midges, looms over us every summer.

We all worry to death about it every year, and try what we can to protect our horses from all that is a flying insect.

So my very anxious question is this: What is the more effective anti-fly regimine between fly-spraying only, once in the morning and once at night (fly-spray wears off though, and there seems to be no longer lasting alternative), and feeding garlic as a supplement (which claims to work all day around as it is excreted by the horse's sweat through its skin, and our summers are hot (but is this true, or really effective?)

What I would like to know specifically, if anyone has an opinion on this, is what would be more effective by itself: fly-spray used on its own, or garlic used on its own without fly-spray? I just want to be able to isolate the efficacy of each as compared to the other.

(Of course, used in conjunction they would be most effective, but I am wondering on an individual basis)

Thanks so much for all replies! I hope there will be many :)
     
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    01-03-2013, 03:42 AM
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Started
I have a dark horse (which seems to be a magnet) that is insanely bothered by all biting flys. I used gar-leze, not sure I spelled it right, and was wonderfully impressed. Also seemed to help his coat. But wasn't a cure all. He constantly gets horse flys at the base of his tail and there's two ways to get em off. I smack em off (probly the only horse in the world that stands when smacked on the rump lol) or he bucks em off. Then I asked around and found the best fly repellent. It's old school and not super user friendly but it works better then anything. Bacon grease. Yep fry up bacon, save the grease and rub it on the horses. No horse flys, may flys, biting flys, nothing. Not even nats
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    01-03-2013, 04:00 AM
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Weanling
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I have a dark horse (which seems to be a magnet) that is insanely bothered by all biting flys. I used gar-leze, not sure I spelled it right, and was wonderfully impressed. Also seemed to help his coat. But wasn't a cure all. He constantly gets horse flys at the base of his tail and there's two ways to get em off. I smack em off (probly the only horse in the world that stands when smacked on the rump lol) or he bucks em off. Then I asked around and found the best fly repellent. It's old school and not super user friendly but it works better then anything. Bacon grease. Yep fry up bacon, save the grease and rub it on the horses. No horse flys, may flys, biting flys, nothing. Not even nats
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Bacon grease! Ha, not what I ever would have expected to hear, I'll admit.
Does it last long though because it is oily? How often would you have to apply it, assuming one does not groom it off the horse at any point.

Also why does this work, do you know? Do insect somehow hate that smell, or texture?
     
    01-03-2013, 04:10 AM
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Well after we heard it worked, we got thinkin, ain't never seen flys in or around bacon grease pans after cooking. It lasts a few days to weeks depending on grooming and weather etc. the horses don't mind it at all and it's free. Well a byproduct I suppose. I don't know why it works but it does. And like I mentioned, have you ever seen flys on bacon grease? Idk but I use it. We keep it in old takeout plastic containers in the fridge.
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    01-03-2013, 04:13 AM
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    01-03-2013, 04:13 AM
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Weanling
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well after we heard it worked, we got thinkin, ain't never seen flys in or around bacon grease pans after cooking. It lasts a few days to weeks depending on grooming and weather etc. the horses don't mind it at all and it's free. Well a byproduct I suppose. I don't know why it works but it does. And like I mentioned, have you ever seen flys on bacon grease? Idk but I use it. We keep it in old takeout plastic containers in the fridge.
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Hmmm... if this works it would be a Godsend to have something that last more than 8hours (stupid flyspray, plus my one horse has sweet itch so that may be the solution that I wanted for him too). Thanks so much for the suggestion!
     
    01-03-2013, 08:35 AM
  #7
Green Broke
First, since I think everyone on earth deals with biting Midge Flies, I Googled "African Horse Sickness".

http://www.cfsph.iastate.edu/FastFac...sickness_F.pdf

THAT is some scary stuff when one realizes it is probably spread a lot easier than anything mosquitoes carry around with them

The above link is dated 2011 and no incidents had been reported in the U.S. Give that some time----------------

Anyway regarding garlic:

I have fed equine garlic, seasonally since 2004, for tick control. It helps keep ticks off my horses to about 85% efficiency.

I honestly don't see that it does much for flies - especially house flies and midge flies

I live in SE United States where we have long warm seasons and more humidity than temperature in the summer. I generally start the horses on garlic in mid-March and don't have to start spraying them until late June or early July.

Meaning, I honestly don't know if the garlic helps to keep me from spraying that long or not; I know that the rest of my world are already going thru bottles of fly spray.

If you try garlic, do NOT feed raw garlic as it's the allicin (sp?) in raw garlic that can possibly cause anemia in horses. Processed/powdered garlic should be ok, unless you have a horse with digestive issues and/or is prone to colic.

Bacon Grease: Huh! Makes sense to me if you can put up with it on your horse When I was a kid, back in the early 60's, we used bacon grease for wounds as it's we had available in our rural area - lol

I also wonder if something sulphur-based, like MTG, might work??? As long as the horse doesn't have any open sores since the sulphur would burn them. Also some horses are allergic to MTG so you would have to do a skin test before spraying.

Apple Cider Vinegar in the feed so it permeates thru the skin, like garlic would? You'd have to watch for the runny bums and again, I'd think twice if the horse has digestive issues.

Maybe some sort of smelly concoction of some or all of the above?

I'm out of ideas but I will wish you the very best of luck figuring this out and that your horses stay free of what is a horrible sickness
     
    01-03-2013, 01:29 PM
  #8
Yearling
I use both on my gelding, he gets severe sweet itch on his belly. Bug Lyte from animed is excellent, in just a few weeks his belly went from being raw and bleeding to cleared up and no bites. I also use bronco fly spray, it seems to work best on him.
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    01-03-2013, 04:30 PM
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Weanling
At the stables where I board we used fly predators this past year. While they don't get every fly around they did help control our fly population. Then we used bronco fly spray as well.
     
    01-03-2013, 04:33 PM
  #10
Trained
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Originally Posted by Phly    
It's old school and not super user friendly but it works better then anything. Bacon grease. Yep fry up bacon, save the grease and rub it on the horses. No horse flys, may flys, biting flys, nothing. Not even nats
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I have GOT to try this next summer! Thanks.
     

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