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post #21 of 51 Old 01-24-2013, 06:21 PM
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Atropine is one of the meds my mare was on for her ulcer. I THINK if I remember correctly it wasn't every day though...maybe every other day for that one?
It does dilate the eye.
She also got bute but it was every other or maybe every third day.

Elizabeth, I think it's very plain you are doing the best you possibly can. Don't think anyone could think otherwise. :) A lot of people wouldn't go through all this for someone else's horse. You are a good person.
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post #22 of 51 Old 01-25-2013, 05:29 AM
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Oh no :/ Ulcers are the worst... My mare had one, scratched it open and well it basically turned into the worst case scenario- we had 3 options. Remove the eye, eye transplant, or 'patch' up the eye with some muscle tissue. I think she had about 3 surgeries and it totaled up to more than $10,000. That was with vet care from day one.
I really hope you manage to get a vet out and that everything works out- and even if she is partially blind, she will be fine- they get used to it :)
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Oh no :/ Ulcers are the worst... My mare had one, scratched it open and well it basically turned into the worst case scenario- we had 3 options. Remove the eye, eye transplant, or 'patch' up the eye with some muscle tissue. I think she had about 3 surgeries and it totaled up to more than $10,000. That was with vet care from day one.
I really hope you manage to get a vet out and that everything works out- and even if she is partially blind, she will be fine- they get used to it :)
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post #24 of 51 Old 01-25-2013, 02:18 PM Thread Starter
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Acorn she gets the Atropine every other day, or if its cloudy out, as the sunlight mixed with the lovely masses of white snow would be to much on her eye. She hates the drops. She's enjoying being a stubborn girl and not letting me get a good pic of her eye, if she even sees me looking (or thinks i am) at her eye she closes it, the brat....
She did rub her eye the fist 3 days, it was fun trying to get her to quit, but she realized it doesn't help, so she quit.

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post #25 of 51 Old 01-25-2013, 02:34 PM
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Elizabeth, I don't know if you mentioned and are doing this but when I was doing my mare's eye the vet told me to do one med, wait 5 min then the next, wait 5 min. on down the line. They told me if you do one right after the other they wash each other out and you don't get the full benefit.

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post #26 of 51 Old 01-26-2013, 04:05 PM Thread Starter
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Elizabeth, I don't know if you mentioned and are doing this but when I was doing my mare's eye the vet told me to do one med, wait 5 min then the next, wait 5 min. on down the line. They told me if you do one right after the other they wash each other out and you don't get the full benefit.

No they didn't tell me that. They just told me do the drops once a day as needed, and the ointment 2-4 times a day for 7 days. They didn't mention any of that.
Her eye is looking really good, she's still fighting me about a pic. But the majority of the cloudyness is gone, except for in the lower most corner of her eye where the injury/ulcer was, and there is scarring present. I'm not sure if she has any vision impairment yet. Poor girl still has a long road ahead.

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post #27 of 51 Old 01-27-2013, 10:49 PM Thread Starter
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Latest updates on Snowy's eye, i don't know how to feel about it...

The only reason she cooperated today with my camera is because hubby was in the car playing with the radio and she was really interested in what was going on LOL. I seriously think she's going to be partially blind in that eye, and have a serious scar. I feel so bad, but don't know what more to do. I do apologize for the pics being huge!!
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post #28 of 51 Old 01-27-2013, 11:19 PM
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Elizabeth, the eye looks better to me. Doesn't look as sore and weepy as it did. Maybe still some swelling?
Is the upper part of the eye clear?

IF she is going to be blind in the eye while that is sad it really isn't the end of the world for her. Many many horses learn to do just fine with one eye. I have a friend who rides a horse who has had one removed. He's a great trail horse!

If I were your SIL I would invest in a couple of good fly masks and have her wear them to protect the good eye. Need to protect that eye for sure.

I know you feel bad and you really shouldn't. You've done a heroic job. As I mentioned before a lot of people wouldn't go through all that for someone elses horse. Heck to even think about having to go through all that again makes me want to curl up in fetal position and cry and I had lots of help.

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Thanks Acorn. And i'll relay her the message. She's still in the barn, so i'm not sure when we'll get the ok to turn her back out.
I do my best, for all of our animals, its def not easy on me. From what i know of if her owner now doesn't start taking better care of them (mare and filly) they will be going up for sale in the summer. They can't keep putting $$ into them, and her do nothing with them. I keep trying to keep myself distant from their herd, but if i see one injured, i can't just leave it go. Things like that really get to me.
Thanks Acorn, you've been very helpful and reassuring.

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post #30 of 51 Old 01-28-2013, 12:04 PM
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I'm not a vet, but I am an eye doctor. And horse's eyes are fairly similar to a human eye in anatomy.

That is not a cataract. A cataract forms in the crystalline lens, which is on the inside of the eye, directly behind the iris (colored part of the eye). An ulcer or abrasion occurs on the cornea, which is the clear part on the very front of the eye.

A scratch or gouge does not cause an ulcer. It causes a corneal abrasion, but which can progress to become infected if not treated. An ulcer forms from an initial infection or inflammation (not from a scratch or abrasion), or in humans an ulcer can result from over-wearing your contact lenses. So there is a difference in terminology between the two in how they are formed, but treatment for the two usually is similar.

In this case, your filly gave herself a large corneal abrasion (gouge in the eye) and then it did get infected (goopy, green discharge).

Get that vet back out NOW. Keep on pestering them and bothering them if you need to. Your filly is already going to have some vision loss if her eye is THAT cloudy on day 11, but maybe you can still make some improvements.

What exact medications do you still have her on? How many times a day?

If this were a human, I most likely would be giving them some sort of steroid eye drop every couple of hours. A steroid is what clears up the inflammation which is what makes the eye cloudy. I'd also be giving an antibiotic every couple of hours or possibly only 4 times a day, depending on how "infected" the eye still is. For a human, you NEVER give an antiobiotic eye drop less than 4 times a day ,or else you create antibiotic resistance. The steroid, however, you will very very very slowly taper off, as you don't want a rebound effect.

Ointments are great for horses, as it's thicker and sticks around longer that a watery-type drop.

I am not a human ophthalmologist, but I am a vet. Steroid + corneal ulcer = melted cornea. NEVER EVER give steroids with a corneal ulcer, especially in cats and horses!!
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