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  • Giving neomycin and polymyxin b sulfates before atropine sulfate for horses
  • Atropine sulfate usp in horses

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    01-28-2013, 11:10 AM
  #31
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Elizabeth Bowers    
We have been calling and pestering them for the past week, the one said she shouldn't of even come out to check on her. I was like WHAT!!! Seriously. I think i'm going to change vets now, i'm over it.
She's on Atropine Sulfate Ophthalmic solution USP, and Neomycin (as needed) and Polymyxin B Sulfates and Bacitracin Zinc Ophthalmic ointment USP (3X day)
She's getting harder and harder to handle anymore. I can usually get the ointment in no problem, but the drops is another story....
I need to get more ointment too.
I feel your pain, horses are very difficult to put eye meds in as they have incredibly strong eye lid muscles (and incredibly strong wills!). If you're only able to treat once daily, you should consider having a vet out who will put in a subpalpebral lavage system. It is pretty inexpensive to place (especially compared to what it costs to remove an eye) and basically is a little tube you sew in to the eye lid so you can stand back by the shoulder and deliver meds without having to pry open the eye and do it. They still fight but it isn't nearly as bad. Sounds wretched but it takes about 5 minutes to put in, 3 seconds to take out once the eye is healed and it REEAAAALLY helps get those meds in the appropriate number of times.

Also, I hope you fired that vet who said she shouldn't have even come out in the first place. UGH! Sometimes I think my colleagues forget their oaths...
     
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    01-28-2013, 11:19 AM
  #32
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by tealamutt    
I am not a human ophthalmologist, but I am a vet. Steroid + corneal ulcer = melted cornea. NEVER EVER give steroids with a corneal ulcer, especially in cats and horses!!
That's my understanding too. I have a sheep that occassionally has a squinty eye, likely from burying her head in hay, but every time a vet stains the eye before any treatment is done.
     
    01-28-2013, 11:19 AM
  #33
Yearling
Also, forgot to mention (since your vet seems like she might not be that thorough...) Atropine can cause colic, so make sure the filly is drinking plenty of water and that you watch her carefully for any signs of this.
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    01-28-2013, 11:24 AM
  #34
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Originally Posted by tealamutt    
Also, forgot to mention (since your vet seems like she might not be that thorough...) Atropine can cause colic, so make sure the filly is drinking plenty of water and that you watch her carefully for any signs of this.
When my mare was at the University they started mixing mineral oil with soaked hay pellets for her each day for just this reason. Her manure was getting really dry looking. They had me to continue to feed the mineral oil and pellets as long as she was getting the drug.
     
    01-28-2013, 11:33 AM
  #35
Yearling
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Originally Posted by acorn    
When my mare was at the University they started mixing mineral oil with soaked hay pellets for her each day for just this reason. Her manure was getting really dry looking. They had me to continue to feed the mineral oil and pellets as long as she was getting the drug.
I like a nice bran mash, serves the same purpose. In fact my guy gets a little iffy whenever the weather changes seasons (he's also an older gent!) so I will usually try to mash him for a week or two when the weather is changing. Keeps everything moving nice and smooth!
     
    01-28-2013, 11:42 AM
  #36
Weanling
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Originally Posted by tealamutt    
Also, forgot to mention (since your vet seems like she might not be that thorough...) Atropine can cause colic, so make sure the filly is drinking plenty of water and that you watch her carefully for any signs of this.
Wish you'd been close enough to help Elizabeth through this.
I think I'd have been insane by now if I hadn't had good vets to help me through it.
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    01-28-2013, 01:59 PM
  #37
Yearling
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Originally Posted by tealamutt    
I am not a human ophthalmologist, but I am a vet. Steroid + corneal ulcer = melted cornea. NEVER EVER give steroids with a corneal ulcer, especially in cats and horses!!
I am confused? Her eye was dyed and the eyeball its self wasn't protruding, and her injury was in the front lower corner of her eye. My vet told me what to give her and that is what I have done. I don't know anything about eye injuries in horses. I don't know what more to do.
     
    01-28-2013, 02:05 PM
  #38
Yearling
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Originally Posted by tealamutt    
Also, forgot to mention (since your vet seems like she might not be that thorough...) Atropine can cause colic, so make sure the filly is drinking plenty of water and that you watch her carefully for any signs of this.
She did tell me this, and i've been monitoring her. And Snowy hogs the water tub, so I know she's getting enough water. But I agree they weren't all that thorough with what to do and how and when and everything. I'm out of everything now, and I had her owners notify them that i'm out of ointment (vet want me to continue the ointment) .
     
    01-28-2013, 02:05 PM
  #39
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Elizabeth Bowers    
I am confused? Her eye was dyed and the eyeball its self wasn't protruding, and her injury was in the front lower corner of her eye. My vet told me what to give her and that is what I have done. I don't know anything about eye injuries in horses. I don't know what more to do.
You did fine. You followed instructions as told. Maybe they weren't the best instructions but that's all you had to go by. You probably saved her eye.
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    01-28-2013, 02:13 PM
  #40
Yearling
Thanks Natisha, this is such a stressful project. I wish I knew more, so I could help a little better.
You guys are awesome with all of you knowledge and advice. This is why I come here with many of my problems, you guys are so helpful. Thanks everyone!
     

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