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  • Arsenic in flax seed
  • Does ulcers in a horse make them lose weight

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    10-01-2013, 07:39 PM
  #21
Weanling
He only way to really know if a horse has ulcers is to get them scoped. The vet can do a fecal blood test and get a pretty good indication, but this is not 100% accurate when it comes to diagnosing ulcers. I have never heard of the running the cap over them thing? One of the biggest indications of ulcers is losing weight. It sounds like your horse has been doing a great job of gaining weight, so you may not have to worry about ulcers at all. That topline is very hard to fill! It is more about gaining the muscle back there, not so much just gaining weight.
     
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    10-01-2013, 08:34 PM
  #22
Trained
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Originally Posted by PunksTank    
Glad you mentioned the balancing act of feeding x.x this is killing me... If he's getting the RB, and the alfalfa pellets won't his Ca:Ph:Mg ratios all be off? I'm mostly concerned about his MG ratio,
Aren't you on feedXL? That will work out the rest for you. They still use the 2:1 Ca/Mg balance as ideal & I work on about 1:1
     
    10-01-2013, 08:50 PM
  #23
Showing
Punk, I think you are also dealing with bloodlines. Some are very rounded and some are built like your horse. I'm wondering how much of what you are feeding is making expensive manure. PS, don't feed raw flax seed. It contains arsenates, in the arsenic family. Boiling it destroys that property.
     
    10-01-2013, 09:31 PM
  #24
Started
Thanks everyone. I've started just feeding him more alfalfa instead of the u-gard. I figure the alfalfa would only help.
Saddlebag, I'm concerned that's true about the expensive manure, but I'm afraid not to be feeding it.
As for the flax I'elve read studies that say exactly opposite, the arsenic is locked in two seperate chambers in the seed and stay there unless boiled or soaked. Grinding is safe too but less stable. I grind it up just before I feed it.
     
    10-01-2013, 09:39 PM
  #25
Trained
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Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
PS, don't feed raw flax seed. It contains arsenates, in the arsenic family. Boiling it destroys that property.
This is a common beleif, but one that I've learned from nutritionists is not a worry - a horse would need to eat a LOT of linseed for it to be affected by the toxins, and just cracking the seeds does reduce that a bit. In addition, cooking the seeds(or any processing) also destroys a lot of the omega 3s very quickly. Therefore I feed linseed/flax raw & grind whole seeds per feed.
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