Undiagnosed "diarrhea" type issue, need help with possible treatments/solutions

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    09-30-2011, 01:59 PM
Question Undiagnosed "diarrhea" type issue, need help with possible treatments/solutions

I have never used a forum before, but I am becoming nearly desperate to figure out what my horses "condition" is. Numerous vets, experienced horse people, etc. can't seem to figure out what it may be.

My horse has some type of "diarrhea" issue that is consistent yet unconsistent. I use quotations for diarrhea because it isn't typical diarrhea. His actual poo is a little wet, but still formed, however he literally drips and squirts out poo-like liquid. I apologize for the gross-ness of this, but it is true. Most of the time it will just dribble down, but I find sometimes it will shoot about a foot out . This will go on every day, all day for a few months, then for no apparent reason it will stop. Then a couple of months or a few months later it starts again for no apparent reason. Normal diarrhea you would notice a change in the horse, drop in weight, moodiness, lethargy, but he remains in great shape with a great attitude, performance isn't effected. We have tried numerous things to help. Changed bedding, changed environment, change hay, change feed, tried suppliments, and he is on pro-biotics. It used to only really happen at horse shows and in stressful situations, but now it just happens and lasts for months. He is very sensitive mentally (he has high anxiety), so I have no doubt that this contributes to the problem, however his anxiety remains the same all year round and the "diarrhea" comes and goes. His equine massage therapist recommended reasearching "leaky gut syndrome" and it seems like a possibility, however after researching many sites, it never really states that this comes and goes as it does for my horse.

Has anyone experienced this before with a horse? Anyone have any suggestions, AT ALL? I feel so awful for my poor horse.
Thank you !!
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    10-16-2011, 12:17 AM
Unhappy Pony with the same problem

My Shetland pony has the exact same symptoms with no loss of weight or health. Nothing I do seems to help. Wish someone could give me the answer. I am going to try a little beet pulp to see if more fiber helps. Actually I sort of believe it is related to weather and seasonal changes. But some times it continues thru the whole season. Oh, what to do, I am getting tired of scrubbing down her back legs.
    10-16-2011, 12:44 AM
Ulcers? Infiltrative bowel disease? Cancer?

Has bloodwork been done?
    10-16-2011, 01:55 AM
I would bet ulcers with you mentioning he was in stressful environments and is a very anxious horse, along with the moodiness. I would talk to your vet about having him scoped.
    10-16-2011, 02:13 AM
Could be sand, may need his teeth floated, maybe he isnt emasculating his food very well. As the others mentioned, ulcers are a strong provabilty if he is a nervous individual.
    10-16-2011, 04:54 AM
Originally Posted by goodhrs    
maybe he isnt emasculating
I wondered what on earth you were trying to get at there, until I read the 'his food properly' bit! Masticating is the word you want, whereas emasculating brings to mind something a wife who 'wears the pants' might be to her husband! Sorry to pick, but that's just too funny a mistake to let go!

OP, what have the vets & others tried/suggested? Does the horse have access to pasture? What is his diet? What supps does he get? Any probiotics? How/how often is he fed? Have you looked into hind gut acidosis? Insulin resistance? Cushings?
    10-16-2011, 05:15 AM
Mitch gets like this too.. Could it be the change in grass/amount of grass or other feed your horse gets?
If it's not a health issue (the like of ulcers etc like others suggest) then I would recommend putting lots of fibre into the feed. (Personally I use Palm Kernel, and Fibre Sure at the moment) Mitch was horrible, I had to wrap his tail and constantly scrub his back legs and wash his bum(poor guy had no privacy), as well as pick poop off the cover buckles to get them undone.. there was even an instance where he flicked his tail and got me in the face with the poop from his tail.. I was standing at his front end.(Oh the shame)

I hope you find out why this is happening it's not a nice thing, for Mitch it's just the amount of grass he eats, especially at certain times of year. He has no health issues that could contribute to this but he doesn't help himself considering he jumps his fence every now and again.
I also find he gets worse when it's close to the time of needing to be wormed, so is that a possibility? Although if it was surely the vets would have picked it up.

Did they do internal scans etc? We had an arab mare that this happened to also but she eventually started bleeding also and they never found out what was wrong. Obviously something was but she coliced on us one day and we decided enough was enough, she had been through enough so she was PTS even though the Diarrhoea and bleeding never bothered her
    10-17-2011, 12:49 AM
Do you have him on pasture??? Does it get worse after a bout of rain?? When was the last time you wormed for TAPEWORMS??? Could be a bacteria in your grass. Similar to the enterotoxemia bacteria.. Damage they get in their intestines from the tapes allows bacteria to enter into their intestinal lining when toxins are present. The bad bacteria kills off the good bacteria ,making loose stool to a bad case of green diarehha..

I would suggest no grain what so ever, take him off pasture and just hay and see what happens to his stool.. I would also have blood work done and a stool sample taken..

    10-17-2011, 07:21 AM
High anxiety horse with runny poo? Try magnesium and see if the horse and his gut do not cool down...

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Call and speak to Carla. She is very helpful.
    10-17-2011, 07:47 AM
Does he have access to clover??,...Also, it could be a mixture of 2 things or more he eats, you might have to play around with his feed elimanating something one at a time..My friends horse had the same thing, she dicovered her guy could not get flaxseed and MSM together....It could be tricky..

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