11-03-2009, 06:24 PM
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#41 | Foal
Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Cuyahoga Falls, OH
Posts: 120
| I'm not sure, either, on how the laws are there, but i would definately tell her(if it were here in the USA) that if she came on my property again that i would give her two choices...one i get the police out and arrest her, or two ill have my 38spl talk to her lol. Just saying that cuz to me, it sounds like shes soo mean she needs to be looking down the barrel of a pistol if she comes on your property again. I also dont know what the laws are there about carrying a concealed handgun either. |
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11-03-2009, 07:18 PM
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#42 | Weanling
Join Date: May 2007 Location: nowheresville, Montana.
Posts: 373
| Phew, bubblegum, I'm super happy that your baby's okay! I had a flashback when i saw this... Flashback to my baby when she colicked, and I almost started bawling. Thank god you got a vet out there ASAP! *hugs* |
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11-03-2009, 07:21 PM
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#43 | Started
Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Rochester, New York
Posts: 2,403
| I am glad that it was just a lodged apple, and not colic!! Good for you for getting the vet out asap! |
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11-03-2009, 08:33 PM
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#44 | Foal
Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: in the middle of a wheatfield
Posts: 239
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Originally Posted by Speed Racer Interesting.
I'm also wondering if the horse was choking, why he wasn't showing any signs of having breathing trouble. | Choke in a horse isn't like a human choking. It is something blocking the esophagus, not the trachea. If the mass occluding the esophagus is large enough, it can also put pressure on the trachea and cause some signs of respiratory distress but the real problem is the path to the stomach, not lungs.
Also, you should know that a case of choke will predispose a horse to choking again, especially if a diverticulum (little pocket) forms from scar tissue which can happen when the choke goes on for a long time. Since Bailey was only stopped up a couple of hours, he should do well in the long run.
So glad this had a positive outcome and that all your training paid dividends, being able to get the vet to work on him. I bet you learned a ton from this and good for you for finding a way to make a happy ending! |
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11-03-2009, 08:47 PM
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#45 | Foal
Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Massachussetts
Posts: 234
| nevermind, i didnt see that its better now, lol |
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11-03-2009, 09:56 PM
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#46 | Weanling
Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Anne Arundel County, MD
Posts: 476
| I would soak his feed for atleast 2 weeks - his esophagus is going to be inflammed for a while, making him more likely to choke again. |
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11-03-2009, 10:14 PM
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#47 | Started
Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: QLD Aus
Posts: 1,761
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Originally Posted by mls I also am a vet tech and a BO. If a horse is laying quietly YOU LET THEM ALONE. Walking can exhaust the horse to the point there are other issues that can play in to what is actually going on.
Working only at the hospital, you may only see the severe cases. Many colics are gas colics and can resolve themselves without drastic measures.
To those of you recommending the banamine right away - shame on you. Without all of the baseline vitals - do NOT administer anything that can mask symptoms before the vet gets there. | I've heard as well that if a horse is laying down you leave it laying down. It is obviously in the most comfortable condition that he/she can find so I'd leave them in that posisiton. I know when Chinga had colic ( ) That he would lay down, but he would get up everynow and then like he was streaching. |
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11-03-2009, 11:31 PM
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#48 | Weanling
Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SouthEastern PA
Posts: 526
| you cant really do too much about the lady, besides talk to her. since you dont own the land it could get into a sticky situation. If you can put up a gate at the end of your drive, and possibly a no trespassing signs. Or you can just let her know, that next time you're having the bill sent to her house. |
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11-04-2009, 09:04 AM
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#49 | Yearling
Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA
Posts: 1,089
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Originally Posted by tealamutt Choke in a horse isn't like a human choking. It is something blocking the esophagus, not the trachea. If the mass occluding the esophagus is large enough, it can also put pressure on the trachea and cause some signs of respiratory distress but the real problem is the path to the stomach, not lungs.
Also, you should know that a case of choke will predispose a horse to choking again, especially if a diverticulum (little pocket) forms from scar tissue which can happen when the choke goes on for a long time. Since Bailey was only stopped up a couple of hours, he should do well in the long run. | Again - I am going to agree with Speedracer - the issue does not sound like choke. A horse cannot burp or throw up. But the stomach acids will try to work on the obstruction. The mucous and bile will pour out of the mouth and nostrils after a short period of time as the body tries to resolve the issue.
One episode of choke does NOT predispose a horse to choke. Humans can cause a horse to choke. Irregular feeding schedules are the worst culprit.
Only a couple of hours does not mean a horse won't scar. It depends on what the item causing the choke is.
Each choke, each horse is very unique. |
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11-04-2009, 09:07 AM
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#50 | Weanling
Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Ireland
Posts: 579
| there is no way i could put a gate up, its hard to explain but i will take a picture of how all three lands (so to speak) conjoin on the same lane way. so relieved that bailey is doing well, i soak all his food anyway and he quite likes it being soaked.
you cant carry a weapon in ireland at all unless you have a licence and you are shooting game, that is it, you cannot get a hand gun, i dont think they even sell them here.
as for the lady she apologised for giving the foal an apple and said she wouldnt do it again but i found her in the stable again today, i dont think i can stop her, i told her that they could be dangerous and to stay out of the stable as i would not be responsible for anything that could happen her. she goes onto everyones land and steals veg, food, hay, (already took two bales from me) and you just cant talk to her about it, i have now locked the hay shed. but cant lock the stable as it could be dangerous |
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