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    05-16-2012, 05:56 PM
Angry Urinating Blood Clots

This is kind of a rant, but could use some advice on dealing with this.

Ok, my friend's TB gelding, who is 20 years old, has gastric ulcers, and is on a super high protein diet is urinating blood and very very sore in his back and kidneys. Like his hind end buckles when you apply pressure kind of sore. I am a vet tech at a diagnostic lab and have run a CBC, Chemistry Panels, UA, cultures, and Leptosporiosis PCR. All have been undiagnostic. However, the horse is still having this problem. I believe it could be uroliths, as does the vet, however the owner will not accept that perhaps she should scale back the horse's activities. Like you know, not jumping him 3'6" or cantering and trotting him for hours a day. The clots in his urine increase in size and number with exercise. I also suspect that the high protein diet is not helping the situation. He is sore, cinchy (always has been because of the ulcers), having painful urination, and generally kind of depressed. He lost a lot of weight suddenly including muscle mass. I suspect there is more to this than her excuse of "Oh, he needs a Chiropracter." What he needs is his urethra and bladder scoped, and to not have the crap ridden out of him.
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    05-16-2012, 05:57 PM
That is sad:(
If the owner does not take responsability, the horse will most likely go into kidney faliure.
    05-16-2012, 06:02 PM
My condolences. It's frustrating when you can see a horse going downhill physically, but can't do anything since you're not the owner.

Is there any way the attending vet could report her for abuse?
    05-16-2012, 06:04 PM
What is sad is that because of her financial situation I have been the one paying for most of his feed and hay for the past 4 months. He would have gone without had I not helped her.
    05-16-2012, 06:06 PM
Green Broke
You say you have run tests and drawn a conclusion that the vet agrees with......but has the vet actually spoken with the horse owner directly in regards to all of this?
    05-16-2012, 09:10 PM
Could that be reported to animal control as abuse????

It sure is neglect.
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    05-16-2012, 09:39 PM
Green Broke
If you are paying for his feed, start paying for a different feed.....she will either feed what you pay for or have to find a way to pay for what she wants him to eat instead. I realize you are doing what you are doing out of concern for the horse, but in the long run you are only enabling the continuance of the current conditions.
    05-16-2012, 09:47 PM
How can someone (the rider, not you) be that ignorant...just plain old stupid?
Say, look, we've been friends for x amount of time and we've always gotten along BUT....I have a strong opinion that the horse is having issues and should not be ridden hard. I'm hoping you respect my friendship enough to take it into consideration. If not, then I need to walk away from the friendship 'cause this situation is breaking my heart.

I personally would not stay friends with someone that I could not have a heart to heart with and get some forward progress.

Hope you make some progress. It's a sad situation for that poor horse.
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    05-16-2012, 11:10 PM
Definitely sounds like calculi. The vet can do an internal exam to check for stones & sediment in bladder or do a transrectal ultrasound. If your friend isn't going to have this horse seen by a vet,maybe you can at least phone a vet for advise.They should be able to tell you diet that will be appropriateSince you are the one paying for his feed might as well take that part of his care into your own hands.If she doesn't like it well then she will have to step up & start paying or donate the horse to a rescue where at least he would more likely get the attention he needs
GRRR owner... Poor horse,does she not see or care about his well being.
If she is not willing to do something about his vet care & he continues on this downhill path ,I think your only option to be an advocate for this horse is to report her for neglect.
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    05-16-2012, 11:18 PM
When you put your agenda before the health and care of your horse? This is when you no longer deserve to be a horse owner.

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