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post #11 of 36 Old 05-09-2010, 10:15 PM
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I think you might be thinking of Corn Syrup.
The oils produce a sheen in the coat, but it's Corn Syrup that will help to put weight on.

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post #12 of 36 Old 05-10-2010, 01:26 AM
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I would definitely NOT do corn syrup. Sugar in horses in large quantities is bad....laminitis/founder bad! While I feed sweet feed and the occasional peppermint or doughnut to my horses, I would be really afraid to add straight sugar such as corn syrup.

It's corn oil, not corn syrup that is for gaining weight (fat, not sugar).

I have heard that corn oil not the best, but I have fed it for a while and never noticed a problem. I am now feeding vegetable oil (which is soybean).

I have heard beet pulp is excellent soaked, and also rice bran. But rice bran should not be fed in large quantities unless they are also getting adequate calcium (such as from alfalfa hay, or rice bran that is in pellets and has been balanced for calcium). I also used to soak alfalfa pellets and drizzle a little vegetable oil over it for one of my old guys. Soaking it makes it easier to chew and gets more water in their system, which is always good.
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Thank you all for posting. My research on the products that are suppossed to help a horse gain weight brought about more questions than answers, so I decided to call the vet. I hated having to do that, but since I am dealing with a 25 year old underweight horse, I feel that I need to be extra careful. She did say stay away from all kinds of oil when trying to put weight on a horse of Hopes age. A horse that old cannot digest the type of fat found in oil. She said if the horse was 15 it may be something to consider. She did say that a dollop of corn oil is good for the coat and hoof and shouldn't cause any problems. In our individual situation, she thinks we need to go with the feed and the grass and add alfalfa cubes. She did come out to give to us an evaluation on Hope a few weeks ago...nothing wrong, just general geriatric care and to give her a full exam (we were having issues from previous owner...which is a topic for a different thread), so she is well aware of our individual horses needs. I didn't get to ask her all of my questions, because when she called me back, I was at work.

All that being said, I still think we will have to go with a supplement, because Hope just doesn't have a very big appetite. She isn't interested in hay after grazing all day and getting 4 scoops of feed. I have taken note of all your suggested supplements and am going to print out the info on them (because none of them are found in our local feed stores, so my vet may not yet know about them). I have 3 stores nearby where I can buy that sort of thing and all of them carry the exact same 2 products :roll: The good thing is, though, with the internet, I can buy any product I want Any suggestions are still welcome...especially those that have worked for your senior horses. Thank you all some much for your help and suggestions.
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I use a touch of corn oil to help bring out the shine in my girls coat.

As far as weight, most horses will actually do just fine on free-choice hay, and a combination of grass, timothy, and or alfalfa pellets mixed with beet pulp. There are no excuses for thin horses, age is irrelevent, and being underweight is usually due to the "wrong" kind of feed or tooth/digestive problems. I've read an article that said an older horse was given pounds of pelleted feed, enough feed that should have been okay, but due to a health problem, the horse wasn't able to maintain weight.

I DO realize that you are doing what you can for this horse, and my comment about "no excuse" is not directed at you, or anyone, merely a fact. You are obviously trying to do everything you can to help this horse. =]

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I have been told by someone, I forget who now, to use vegetable oil to help fatten our old mare. Then the farrier said use corn oil. So which is the best or are they about the same?
Corn oil can increase inflamation and decrease nutrient absorbtion, especially in older horses, so I personally do not recommend it.

I have had good luck using alfalfa pellets and flax meal or rice bran to put weight on horses. You can soak the pellets if you have a horse that eats fast or if the older horse has dental issues. I feed 1 cup of flax or rice bran daily, with 1 to 2 scoops of alfalfa pellets, using a 3 qt feed scoop. One scoop equals 3-3.5 lbs of alfalfa pellets.
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the veggie oil I buy is actually 100% soy. It says so on the ingredients but its not advertised as it on the front label. I prefer corn/veggie over more expensive fat supplements, its healthy, unless you are using cups and cups of it.
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I have a 24 yr old gelding who has a rare combination of shivers and stringhalts. No vet has actually been able to definitively diagnose it. We use corn oil on his food to help with his shivers and it works great! It also helps keep weight on him. The corn oil is high in fat and does something to the metabolism that makes it burn sugars and carbs more efficiently and leave fat (the sugar and carbs make the shivers worse apparently).
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Canola oil all the way. I did plenty of research before I started to add oil and that one has the best omega3/omega6 ratio. I've been adding oil to my girls diet from the beginning. I've also seen the skinny horse became fatter and shinier after the owner started to add oil (about cup/day).
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post #19 of 36 Old 05-11-2010, 12:01 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you all for the info and taking the time to post. I did purchase some alfalfa cubes today. I haven't given her any yet...although, I will start her tomorrow. I'm not sure she's going to eat them though. I also added a few squirts of the corn oil. She ate every drop of her feed during both feedings (very unusual). Does the corn oil make it more palatable or is that just a coincidence?

Also, as just a side note....we didn't let this horse get skinny, she came to us that way. We've only owned her a little over a month. Our vet said it would probably be easier to keep weight on her once we get it there than it is trying to get it on in the first place.
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We had a thoroughbred (passed away last fall) who we started having real problems keeping weight on once he hit 20. Particularly during the winter. It was a little better in the spring/summer when the grass was good.
Vet ran all kinds of tests, nothing turned up in those. Kept his teeth in really good shape with the equine dentist.
What seemed to work the best for him (after a LOT of trial and error) was unlimited (24/7), good quality second cutting grass hay, senior feed, some supplement powder (I think it was called Fat Cat) and afew handfuls of black oil sunflower seeds with each feeding. Also, we fed him his senior feed combo 3 times a day instead of 2.
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