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  • HORSES BACK HOOVES HIT FRONT HOOVES
  • Back hooves hit front hooves

 
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    06-26-2008, 01:53 PM
  #1
Foal
VERY Novice question here about hooves

OKAY HERE IS A NEW ONE FOR ME, WHICH I AM VERY NEW tO THE HORSE WORLD BUT MY QH I THINK MAYBE GOING LAME ANY SUGESTIONS? HERE IS HER SYMPTOMS, WHEN SHE WALKS MY SISTER CLAiMs THAT HER BACK HOOVES HIT THE BACK OF HER FRONT HOOVES AND IS CAUSING BRUSING AND AFTER A WHILE OF RIDING EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE SHE SEEMS TO NOD HER HEAD, MAYBE OUT OF PAIN? THE PERSON WHO IS SHOEING HER HAS LEFT HER HOOVES ALOT LONGER THAN THE OTHER HORSES THAT WE RIDE WITH, I SAY THIS MAY BE TO BLAME FOR HER HITTING HERSELF, IF THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING, BUT I ALSO THINK THE HOOF IS TOO LONG BECUASE IT SEEMS IT HAS HER ANKLE AT A WEIRD ANGLE COMPAIRED TO OTHER HORSES AND I WONDER IF THIS IS LETTING THE BACK SIDE OF HER FRONT HOOVES TO HIT THE GROUND CAUSING THE BRUSING. Okay since I do not know the antomy of a horese hoof I will tell it it is the back side of her front hooves, looks like two knots that are brusing. I WOULD THINK THAT SHE WOULD CORRECT HER STRIDE IF SHE WAS HITTING HERSELF IN THE BACK OF HER FRONT HOof..? MY MOM SAYS HER LEGS ARE TOO LONG FOR HER BODY AND THAT IS CAUSING HER TO HIT HERSELF LIKE THAT WHEN SHE WALKS. ANYONE HAD ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS. SHE WALKS A LITTLE TOO FAST FOR ME TO CONFIRM THAT SHE IS ACTUALLY HITTING HER SELF AT ALL. I KNOW THAT I DID NOT USE THE RIGHT TERMS FOR ALL OF THIS. I WAS THROWN INTO OWNERSHIP AND I AM READING AND LEARNING MORE AND MORE DAILY. DOES THIS SEEM LIKE IT MAY WARRANT A VISIT TO THE VET, A TALK TO THE PERSON SHOEING HER, OR AN EMERGENCY? HELP ANY SUGGESTION AT ALL. I DON'T EVEN MIND IF YOU CALL ME AN IDIOT NEWBIE, I JUST DO NOT WANT THIS HORSE TO SUFFER. My sister thinks putting a pair of boots will help?

THANKs
     
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    06-26-2008, 02:06 PM
  #2
Foal
To be it sounds like she is over reaching (i may be wrong, as I don't know that much about lamness). I would try putting over reach boots on the front and see if the problem easie, I would also be tempted to talk to the farrier as they know alot about how a horse should walk and about the hoof should look.

Jenny
     
    06-26-2008, 02:07 PM
  #3
Weanling
Hi, welcome to the crazy world of horses!

What your mare is doing is called "over-reaching". Horses with longer strides tend to catch their front heels with their back feet. Gaited or dressage type horses tend to do it most, though any breed could do it. High speed performance horses also do it occasionally.Sometimes they actually pull off their own shoes by doing it. Or your farrier could be causing the problem.

First, yes, something called bell boots can help protect her front feet from bruising, at least while you ride, which is usually when a horse is most apt to do it. I dont' advise leaving them on 24/7 because they can chafe and rub and hold in moisture and cause their own little problems.

Your farrier is probably trimming her different to try to fix the problem. Most will leave the hind feet a little longer in the toe to lengthen what's called "breakover" and keep the foot on the ground a little longer to give the front foot time to get out of the way. Then they tend to shorten the toe in the front foot to speed it up. The problem with this is that it doesn't always work, plus, it messes with the tendons in the legs and can set the front feet up for other long-term soundness issues.

This is certainly not an emergency and you would be better off talking to the farrier than the vet in this case. You might even get a second opinion from another farrier/trimmer to see if the problem is the mare's build or the current farrier's work. She may always be prone to catching herself, so again, bell boots are a blessing for rides in that instance. I'm a barefoot trimmer, not a farrier, meaning I have the same job, but I solve problems without the use of metal shoes. I want the hoof to be as natural as possible, so I would probably see things a little differently than a traditional farrier, but a second opinion, regardless would be worth the time. You may still prefer your current guy, but a second opinion is helpful sometimes.
     
    06-26-2008, 02:44 PM
  #4
Foal
thank u so much!

Thanks so much for the advice I was very upset and worried. This horse was a gift if you will from my mom to my 8 year old daughter and she is out of town right now and I could just see how upset she would be if she knew her horse was in pain. The horse is 4 and they are just starting in barrel races together. I will get on getting the bell boots and the second op asap. I am so glad to hear this is not an emergency and is something that does unfortunatly happen from time to time. Thank you thank you. Now going back to studying up more on horses etc.
     
    06-29-2008, 06:12 PM
  #5
Trained
Good on you for studying up! Here're a couple of good hoof related sites; www.hoofrehab.com & www.barefoothorse.com. Whether or not you choose to shoe the horse, the trimming principles must be sound & work with the horse, not against it. I include not putting shoes on young horses who aren't yet fully developed as one of those important principles. It's a big subject, with lots of opposing views, so it's up to you to study all the pros & cons & make up your own mind.

If your daughter's only 8yo, they may not be up to much yet & it may not be a problem, but IMO 4yo is too young to be doing something like barrel racing and it is possible that high-stress work on underdeveloped joints & tendons is creating problems. Not assuming the worst - I don't know the situation, but this is something to consider too.
     
    06-29-2008, 09:16 PM
  #6
Foal
oh thabks

I thought 4 was about the age to start them off. But no they are not up to that much. Thye just do a beginner class at our local area and the fast they go is a trot. Yes it does seem it is ocer reaching now that I have got to watch her closer. But it is time 4 a trim and I plan on being present at the farm when the farrier comes again. I have lots of questions. I say I am very new to this the horse was given to my daughter 4 weeks ago but has been on the farm since the day she was born so they have a great relationship. But I am studing and reading constiantly and hope to have some ideas as of my philosophy on this whole barefoot shoeing question. Mom has just always shoed her horses so I was unaware of the options and always used the same person. Thanks for your advice and I plan on seeking advice from many others to form ideas that I feel best suit my dd and her horse. I was unaware that 4 may be too young to start the horse on barrels so a big thanks for that information.
     

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