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post #1 of 10 Old 06-09-2012, 11:19 PM Thread Starter
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Which vet to use...?

Hey guys,

As most of you should know by now, I have a four year old cryptorchid QH stallion that I am planning on gelding sometime within the next few weeks.

My current dilemma, though, is vets. See, I don't have a lot of money, and I'm only barely being paid $200 a week with my job (but at least it's a job). In addition to needing to get my boy gelded, I've got White Line Disease to batte in all three of my horses hooves and have been trying to save up to buy my gelding a saddle that fits him.

Of course, my priorities are getting my stallion gelded and getting rid of WLD. The saddle can wait.

There are wo vets out here who do cryptorchid gelding procedures that don't cost an arm and a leg.

Here's my dilemma:

VET A: Vet A is the vet I've used for the past four years. I adore him and really respect and trust him. He's been great with my horses and is an exceptional vet. However, the Animal Hospital where he works seems to have trouble keeping records of what animals they treat and what they've done to said animals. I don't know if it was a one-time deal or not, but the clinic has had that issue before where they lost all their records. Also, to get my boy gelded by them is going to cost me probably up near $500.

VET B: Vet B is the vet I used to use and used for probably about eight or nine years. He's the one who gelded my boy Dakota. However, after having several issues with him regarding my horses and hearing some things about him, I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him even though several of my friends and family members use and trust him with their animals. however, if I did use him to geld my crypt. stallion, it would be $150-$200 dollars less than if I used my regular vet.

I'm just not sure which vet to use. Money is tight, but should I go against my own personal feelings to use the cheaper vet? I know that part of my dislike of Vet B is because I don't quite trust him (he lets people buy restricted medication from him without even seeing their animals)... but...

I'm just not sure... can anyone give me some guidance here...?

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post #2 of 10 Old 06-10-2012, 12:15 AM
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If you can get Crypt surgery under $500 you are doing pretty good. Don't know all the issues with vet B but prescribing meds thing isn't that unusual{depending on drug}.If you have a good repore with your vet & he knows your horses, your knowledge & abilities to know proper administration of the drugs,I know several vets that will dispense with just consulting/discussion of problem with them without them seeing horse.
If it is just more a clash of personality with vet B,& you do trust in his actual ability as a vet to do job well & he is going to be more affordable, you may just want to swallow your personal feelings & go with him.
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post #3 of 10 Old 06-10-2012, 12:29 AM
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Veterinary medicine is not an exact science, therefore the unpredictables remain. A vet could do an identical procedure on 100 horses and something will go haywire on at least one of them. The problem with going by hearsay about anything is that people embellish the story to suit their purposes so it is much less than the truth. You must be a budgeting genius to earn $200 a week and support four horses. Perhaps there's a monetary future for you in publishing a book on stretching the dollar. Some vets will sell restricted medications to horses owners who are usually long established clients and who have handled the drugs before.

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Let me explain my dislike of Vet B. I should have explained it beforehand, ut felt my thread was long enough.

I dislike him mainly due to the fact that he point blank refused to make a farm call when I had an emergency with my mare a few years ago. He refused without good reason, in my opinion (he was going on vacation in a few days and needed to pack), and it was a pretty major emergency (my mare had gotten a nail embedded in her hoof). That was the first time I ever had to call the vet I now use and he came out within half an hour on an emergency basis.

Later that same year, I needed to get the vet (Vet B) out to do my mare's teeth. He point blank refused again, stating that he will not come out for no less than two horses. I know several people other than myself who often need a vet to come out for just one horse, and that got under my skin because this vet knew of my problem with not owning or having a horse-safe trailer and he knew that I couldn't trailer my horse to him. Once again, I called Vet A and he came out within half an hour.

Also, Vet B will sell restricted medications to me still, and I'm not a cliet of his anymore. If I call and say I need something, he doesn't even ask for information, he just says to come and get it.

At this point, I'm not sure if I do trust his ability. I'm sure he's a good vet, but it's more of a mental thing, I think...
I quit using him after my uncle died, and my uncle was the one who controlled who we used as a farrier/vet. The farrier he had me use before he died messed my mare's hooves up, and I switched to a different farrier after he died. It's sort of the same with the vet. I trusted him because my uncle liked him, but now that my uncle is gone, I really don't know if I do trust Vet B enough to let him perform a crypt. surgery on my boy.

And Saddlebag, I'm not that good with money, but I can make it stretch. Lol.

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I would go with vet A. If there are complications I would want the vet that did the job & is willing to come out. Maybe he would even take payments.
If record keeping is a problem with his office staff ask them to send you copies of everything as soon as the work is done & keep your own records.
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^^^^ Agreed. I wouldn't have a vet that has a problem making emergency calls do surgery on my horse.
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The vet that is selling restricted meds to you sounds somewhat unethical based on your anecdotes. i would go with the pricier vet (btw WOW that's still an incredibly cheap price for a crypt- you must be in a rural or impoverished area). If something goes awry with the sketchy vet, it will end up costing far more than the $200 you saved initially. That being said, as someone else pointed out complications can and do happen to the best so plan accordingly. Good luck with your boy!
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post #8 of 10 Old 06-10-2012, 02:03 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks guys. I will prolly go with my current vet (the more expensive one). I like him a whole lot better and he knows my horses very well. I can take my horses up to the vets office now, thanks to my best friend... I just have to give her gas money to trailer my horses, lol. Which isn't a problem.

And yes, it is pretty cheap for a crypt surgery... but I am in a pretty rural area. And my vet will do a payment plan if I need to.

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Sounds perfect.
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Go with your gut, may cost more but sounds like it is the better option! It's usually true that you get what you pay for and when it comes to surgery I personally want as little amount of complications as possible and if there are that the vet will come out now not later!

I agree With Natasha, if you worry about record keeping, get all records from them and keep them yourself

Best of luck and I hope all goes well
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