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  • Lyme disease treatment in horses with rotating coffin bone

 
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    02-16-2010, 08:25 PM
  #11
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Oh I'm so sorry Michele! I know it may be hard to right now (I've been there with Arie!) but try to look at the good things....you know what it is and you are starting treatment, this is a good thing! She has age on her side and she's healthy otherwise. From what I have gone through with Arie and his fractured coffin bone, I can tell you that I highly doubt her coffin bone is broken/fractured because she would be showing extreme lameness and in a ton of pain...my vet and I discussed this at great length!

Would Lyme cause a horse's coffin bone to rotate? Would it cause lameness at all? I'm moderately familiar with Lyme, but not totally....

Take comfort in the fact that it wasn't a training issue after all :) You and Chance will get through this.....if I can have my horse on stall rest for 7, almost 8 weeks, you can make it! Lol. Stay positive, especially for Chance's sake (she's sensitive to your emotions). You know I'm here if you need me *hugs*
     
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    02-16-2010, 08:45 PM
  #12
Green Broke
Thanks Rebecca :)

Im trying to keep myself looking at the positive, but those negitives keep creeping up on me.

I know the other horse that has Lyme gets very unsound due to his lyme diease they caught it to late to really cure it. Luckly with Chance being young.. she should be able to pull through the treatment fine. But the vet did say some horses do get worse before they get better while on the treatment so that made me a bit nervous but I guess Ill see.

While she's on this treatment im basically down to UDT, grooming..... and hand walks maybe on the trails or something. Even then im unsure because of if she spooks she could move wrong.

But im glad I set my ground with no twitch because now I know how trusting chance can be. I mean the vet was trying to make Chance out to be a monster.. she's liek you know I have two kids to go home to.. so I do need to make it out alive.. im like look I can sit under chance and sit on the ground and clean out her hooves etc.. you'll be fine. She's like yes but im putting a needle in her nerve... im like... just try it once.. if she does something you can twitch her. Of course my baby is perfect and just stands there. The vet glared at me! LOL!!
     
    02-16-2010, 09:07 PM
  #13
Yearling
Oh I am so sorry to hear about your mare but I am glad that you had the vet out to check her , I hope all the treatments go well
     
    02-16-2010, 10:02 PM
  #14
Green Broke
Thank you :)

Im glad I didnt back out of calling the vet like my BO wanted me to.
     
    02-16-2010, 10:21 PM
  #15
Yearling
Michelle, I am so sorry to hear about Chance's injury and illness. Lyme disease can cause some serious mental issues (a friend of ours shot himself in the head from being made so insane by Lyme disease. Thankfully he did not die and with treatment is recovering from the disease). This isn't the worst prognosis ever and I know that vet bill is biting you, but Tanner racked about that much up with a choke incident late friday night, which is a stupid reason to fork out $600 but we do what we must huh?

I hope treatment successful for your girl and that she makes a full recovery from her lameness/injury. And good for you for sticking to your guns when there were many who said this was in your head, or that Chance is just a nutcase. The caveat there is that you may need to face the fact that the Lyme may have life long consequences on her personality. I am going to make it my mission this week to find out all I can about this disease and the prognosis, they are going to be so sick of me out in the clinic, but I promise to get as much info for you as I can!! Good luck girl, you two are in my thoughts to night.
     
    02-16-2010, 10:29 PM
  #16
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Spirithorse    
Would Lyme cause a horse's coffin bone to rotate? Would it cause lameness at all? I'm moderately familiar with Lyme, but not totally....
Lyme can cause laminitis, but does not frequently present this way. Often the lameness is intermittent and shifting.

Oh, and HAF- Ace= acepromazine. It is a nice sedative with longer action than many others commonly used, but it has an unfortunate but RARE side effect of penile paralysis so many vets steer clear of it. Obviously this is not an issue in Chance's case so you may ask about it if she goes insane over having a lot of stall rest. Like any drugs though, only use when you must. Tanner loved his this weekend while we tried to resolve his choke. He was the most mellow fellow ever on it.
     
    02-16-2010, 10:33 PM
  #17
Trained
^^really ? I thought most vets stayed away from it because it is so easy for the to fight it & 'wake up' basically. I've never heard a vet say it was from the very rare side effects...

Sorry to hear about chance, I wish her a quick recovery
     
    02-16-2010, 10:43 PM
  #18
Yearling
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Originally Posted by gypsygirl    
^^really ? I thought most vets stayed away from it because it is so easy for the to fight it & 'wake up' basically.
that is true, if you're trying to do treatment, but if you're trying just to keep them quiet in a stall, it works pretty well. I do work with a lot of vets who do stallion work, so maybe that is why they are always so anal about saying "don't give him Ace!!". They made me get Tanner's records to make sure he'd had it previously before they'd give it to him. Each practitioner has their preferred cocktails though...
     
    02-16-2010, 11:04 PM
  #19
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HorsesAreForever -- I am sorry that you now have to deal with the lyme disease and the lameness, but it is good that you are now backed up with a diagnosis -- some answers for you! Good luck with the treatment!
     
    02-16-2010, 11:04 PM
  #20
Green Broke
Thank you so much Teal for all the support you've given me through out my posts.

Only now do I wish I COULD blame it on the training.. seeing that this could leave life long effects. Either not ever being 100% sound again.. or maybe being unpredictable which Id rather deal with that as well cause im sure I could find a pattern. The vet did say for her certin cold temps could trigger the active lyme.. so if I could find that out and avoid getting on her during that time it should be a lot smoother.

Even today it was colder then it has been in a few weeks and when I was trotting Chance in hand it was like flying a kite, but then all of a sudden she was fine again.. to her normal self. Even the vet gave a huge HMM! Lol. Chance is SUCH a laid back mare, you tend to know something is wrong when she's throwing her self around like that. But she's a horse as well so I can't exspect her to be perfect all the time. Especially when she needs to be :P

But Im praying that she makes a full recovery with this treatment.. and the lameness goes along with it..if not then that means I would be spending another good $300 on xrays and ultrasounds to see what else is going on there. The vet believes the lameness and lyme are 2 seperate things but im crossing my fingers that we can just get past this treatment.. have everything be clear and move forward and never look back.

Now.. is it going to be that easy? Probably not.
One can hope.

Let me know what you find out I am quite curious!
Horses are EXPENSIVE careers/hobbies. Only now is that really hitting me I can't believe how much that racked up so quickly.

Thank you Gypsy :)

NorthernMama - At least I know for sure whats going on. Rather then taking guesses. Thank you by the way :)
     

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