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    06-19-2013, 09:51 AM
Green Broke
Vitamin A, skin issues and joint issues, help

Well we all know that vitamin A is usually the cure for skin issues and we always tell those that don't have access to green grass to supplement with the liquid vitamin A. Well my Lizzy is on a large green pasture and has been for a month now. She had a severe case of scratches just as they were starting to get green grass but that was because she had a tendon injury and kept standing in the pond with her wrap on. It was so bad I had to get some prescription stuff from the vet to put on it. It is still healing, still pink skin and the hair is not really wanting to grow back. Well she is getting lots of skin irritation on all her legs (pink skin on all 4) where she has some scabs and it looks pretty pink. Not the bleeding scabs but the kind that flake off taking the hair with it.

So after all that should I still be supplementing with vitamin A? She is on green pasture 24/7 and gets a vitamin/mineral supp in the morning that has a pretty significant vitamin A dose. I keep her legs clean and I shaved them to help keep them dry. She does wear fly boots but that is because the flys make her all bloody. She is not standing in the pond very often anymore, I can tell because her hooves are dry everytime I pull her out.

And on to the joint problems:

Her tendon injury was to her front left. Vet figured she just kicked herself and she trotted out sound so he didn't feel the need to do an u/s. Not sure when the swelling went down from that as she got severe scratches to the point fetlock to knee was swollen and warm. But that is all done now. No heat, no swelling and sound BUT yesterday she was very stiff going to the left her canter felt very jarring compared to going to the right. She is on Smartpak smartflex senior herb free supplement but that just started about a week ago so might not being taking effect yet.

I wanted to do endurance but after her injury she had 3 weeks off and now we are very slowly starting back into work. Mostly been just walk and some trotting until last night was the first time we cantered in a circle. She has also been choppy in her trot out on the trails which is unusual for her. She typically does the arab trot and moves freely. She is also 20.

Also to note I just asked the barn owner if anyone ever has a chiro out to see if maybe I could tag in on an appointment.

Sorry for the novel but any help?
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    06-19-2013, 10:39 AM
Green Broke
Just to update we will be having a chiro out. Hopefully next week. Found someone at the barn that would share a call out fee.
    06-19-2013, 01:47 PM
Green Broke
Any help?
    06-19-2013, 02:11 PM
Green Broke
It sounds like you need to fence off the wet portion of the pasture and get her out of there. Have the vet do a skin scraping and find out if she has mites or some other parasite. Also worm her.. ivermectin would be my choice. If the ivermectin works she may be come worse at first if the mites are in the skin and die (if she has mites).

Too MUCH vitamin A can be as much an issue as too little. A needs to be balanced with D and E and there needs to be adequate Selenium (but too much Se can cause issues as well).

I would guess what you really need is a veterinarian.
    06-19-2013, 02:26 PM
My thought would be not scratches but something more along the lines of allergies, bugs, contact sensitivity... I wouldn't be clipping the hair as they offer some protection and there's no need to supplement A this time of year.
    06-19-2013, 02:26 PM
Green Broke
Not my pasture so I can't fence it off. And she can't go in the other pasture because that's the geldings and she is a hussy and one of them will get very attached to her. The skin issues are just on the pink skinned part of her legs. No where else.

She gets dewormed spring and fall with an ivermectin based dewormer but otherwise she is on a daily dewormer. I could grab a tube of ivermectin though but I think I will ask the vet first since I don't want to overdo it.

The chiro, as I found out, is also our vet and will be out on Tuesday so I will have him look at it too.

I've always battled scratches on her legs but this year has been sooooo wet that it has been horrible. But I can tell when she's been in the pond and it really isn't that often. Her hooves get this look to them if they are wet for any amount of time and they have been pretty hard and dry lately so I think the newness of the pond wore off. She was just moved to this place end of April.

I had to clip the hair as it was getting bad on all 4. She does have allergies and is very sensitive to bugs on her legs. That is why I have to use fly boots.
    06-19-2013, 02:33 PM
If it's pink skin on just the white, my $$ is on clover sensitivity, dew poisoning...
    06-19-2013, 02:37 PM
Green Broke
Even with the fly boots protecting the lower part of the legs? I don't think I have seen any clover in the fields but I will ask the barn owner if they know of any. She has had little tiny scabs on the pink on her nose. Never had that problem last summer even when she stood out in the sun all day. She won't keep her long nose fly mask on so I don't even bother anymore.

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