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    11-02-2012, 01:23 PM
Green Broke
She goes in if it's wet out. The bf is also picking up shavings :) Luckily I can stall her if I provide shavings and clean the stall for no extra charge. Plus she loves her stall now.

I just opened a new bag of rice bran so I will up that til this bag is out then see if I can get the meal form. TSC is an hour away :(

I'm going to be using feedxl later today. Going to break down and pay for that.

The only change in her diet within the month before she got laminitis was the flax oil so I have no idea. I'm just too nervous to try it again.
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    11-02-2012, 01:34 PM
We have been trying to get oat hay for a long time. Finally found someone to start supplying us with it but it won't be till next winter. Oat hay is coarser and some horses won't eat it but if they will eat it it seems to help them out as far as having the energy to keep themselves warm without munching on grass hay 24/7. I personally would not add oils to a diet already consisting of 1lb or more of rice bran because that is a lot of fat content to tolerate.
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    11-02-2012, 01:45 PM
Green Broke
When she was on flax oil she was getting 4oz of flax oil per day plus I think 1lb or 1.5lbs of rice bran. Could that have caused the laminitis? I didn't think fat could. She never had runny poo after I took her off grain.
    11-02-2012, 02:46 PM
We use two different vets from two different regions for a variety of opinions and both advised me to do one or the other. My app that is 14yo and gets 2lb of rice bran also gets a 4 ounces ground flax but according to the vets it can cause laminitis in some horses. I don't know if the ground flax would be different than the oil itself. I would think the oil would be stronger than the flax seed itself because the oil is extracted. Will have to do some research on that.
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    11-02-2012, 03:09 PM
Green Broke
Wait the flax or the excess fat causes laminitis?

Either way FeedXL told me rice bran is bad since she is prone to laminitis. So after this bag that is gone.

But she needs Sodium, Iodine, and Vitamin E. How do I get more vitamin E? I'm just going to put iodized salt in her food.

And she doesn't have enough food to meet her energy requirements. Even though she is getting about 30.4 lb of feed per day.
    11-02-2012, 03:31 PM
Somewhat logical with the ricebran causing it. It has almost 22% NSC.
I can only speak for Omega Horseshine with 4% NSC, don't know about oil or flax seeds. And the omega hs is recommended for laminitic horses. You feed 1/2 to one cup a day. I will weigh that when I feed lunch
You can get Vitamin E supplements. Check the various online vet supplies. Horse Health USA, Jeffers, Valleyvet, KV vet, for example. They're usually cheaper than the average feedstore.
    11-02-2012, 03:34 PM
How do you figure the 30 lbs of feed? Isn't she on free choice hay? I was surprised how little mine ate out of the slowfeeder compared to just dumped on the ground. I weighed everything, even raked together the leftovers and weighed them too. For about a month, every day.
    11-02-2012, 03:39 PM
Green Broke
Well the paddock of 5 horses gets about 120lbs of hay per day. So I averaged her at 25 lbs of hay. Like I said no one chases anyone off hay they are the group that got beat up everywhere else :) and they finish every last bit. But they have been getting about 140lbs the last two weeks as they are the skinnier bunch from being chased off before. So in total it's about 30 lbs. I have the FeedXL including the alfalfa cubes as those have already been delivered to my grain box :)

Sooooo here's the question. She's on Red Cell 2oz a day. Would it be cheaper and easier to just get an all around multivitamin instead? So far my monthly feed bill is just a few pennys shy of $100 on top of board and I haven't paid extra for hay yet.
    11-02-2012, 03:47 PM
Its hard to estimate their hay intake with other horses around. I feed square bales and have one mare who will in excess of 35 lbs of hay a day while a couple of my geldings will only eat about ten pounds a day. In order too see how much they are taking in at max I put them on a dry lot separately and weigh out all the hay. My app is laminatic but the rice bran doesn't bother him only certain types of grasses do. Mostly winter grasses.
    11-02-2012, 03:50 PM
" they finish every last bit".... how is it now since they are getting a bit more? Still all gone?
For that group slowfeeder nets who never go empty would be ideal.

I think a general vitamin/mineral supplement would be cheaper, depending on what you get. There are many and it takes some comparing to get the most bang for the buck.

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