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    01-25-2013, 01:47 PM
It does sounds like it could be a severe allergic reaction, are you in an area where you could give him a baking soda bath to ensure any possible topical irritants can be removed/ neutralized? Have the vets thought about experimenting with something like a round of Dex or some sort of antihistamine to see if it makes a difference? Those drugs tend to have a pronounced and fast reaction if it is indeed an allergy that is the problem, which could get you on the right track. Good Luck!
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    01-25-2013, 01:58 PM
The more I look at this and compare pictures. I would definitely consider summer sores, caused by stomach worms. The diarhhea is a big factor to consider. I would make sure the horse is wormed again with a broad spectrum dewormer. It won't hurt to do it. Although it is called summer sores, it is common sometimes in late winter. I would look into it. An allergic reaction typically won't cause diarhhea..
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    01-25-2013, 03:23 PM
Unless it is a food allergy. Hard to say really. I have seen some strange allergic reactions from hay. But it is possible it could be.
    01-25-2013, 03:35 PM
I would certainly support bloodwork!!
    01-25-2013, 10:06 PM
Vet#1 finally called back today and said the cultures grew RINGWORM!?!? Ringworm sounds ridiculous to me, it doesn't explain the bizarre swelling, the weeping serum or the diarrhea.

Vet#3 is coming tomorrow for a second opinion and to take blood samples, I will request Dex, a good dose of steroid certainly couldn't hurt this horse now. We started a round of penicillin last night since he finished the course of uniprim prescribed by Vet#1, but nothing has changed.

Star, has been off of the new hay for 4 days, everything else in his world is the same as it has been for over a year. Vet#1 gave him a medicated bath 6 days ago, which didn't improve anything, so a contact allergy seems unlikely. Food allergy is still possible, maybe.

It might be possible that worms are the culprit, but I would be extremely surprised if parasites were involved in any way. This horse has been on a very strict worming schedule for over a year now. My neighbor bought Star last October, he came from a home where he was used as a ranch horse and received minimal care, but for the last year, while he has been with my neighbor, he has had the absolutely the best of care.
    01-25-2013, 10:15 PM
... just because ringworm sounds rediculous to you does not mean that is not a part of a potentially broader problem. I hope you'll disclose the test results with Vet #2... P.S. Good vets will only honor a person's "request" for treatment if there is a basis for it. Randomly giving a horse drugs when you do NOT know the underlying condition is not wise.

Also - is it possible that, if the underlying problem is indeed ringworm, that the horse developed a staph infection as a result of the ringworm? That would explain the swelling in the chest area...
    01-26-2013, 04:58 PM
Interesting results. I have seen ringworm before but that is just bizarre. Perhaps it is several things happening together as mentioned.
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    01-26-2013, 05:54 PM
If it is ringworm, it is easily cured by topical treatment. I am guessing he took several scrapings to determine this? A culture wouldn't lie.
    01-26-2013, 05:57 PM
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I am guessing this horse has more than one thing going on. Ringworm is a fungus and the horse may have it as the result of a compromised immune system.

The diarrhea and sores and non response to antibiotic therapy make me wonder if there is an autoimmune issue of some sort or a protozoal issue.. maybe something really strange that was picked up from another species (bird, bat, raccoon, mouse etc.) that defecated or pissed on/in the hay or grain. Could even be a weird virus although I think more likely protozoal.

I would run that past my vet as well.. and indicate there was this hay change.

No idea where the hay was baled or when.. it might shed light on this.

It MAY be allergies.. but my gut is telling me it is not.
    01-26-2013, 06:22 PM
Regardless of an animal's health, they are not immune to ringworm if it is their first encounter. I would be thinking "bleach" as in disinfection the area, blankets, brushes, yada, yada.
If he is on antibiotics - it could easily exacerbate diarhea. I don't think the two (ringworm and diarhea) are related. A partial impaction can cause diarhea or the elimination of heathy gut flora - along w an endless number of other things...but I don't think ringworm can.

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