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post #1 of 16 Old 08-04-2009, 02:16 PM Thread Starter
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Red face Weird problem with Colicky behavior and water

I have a question, I have a 6 year old mare that during the winter started showing colic symptoms. Violent kicking and biting at her stomach, tail swishing, etc. she was also very crabby and standoffish for a while. She's normally sweet. She didn't want to move out on the trail either.

When she colicked, we treated her both for sand and ulcers that the vet scoped and found. This was during the winter/rainy season. She stopped her behavior and seemed to be happier for a while.

But recently we've found she's withdrawing somewhat, and also any and every time we spray her stomach with water she will violently kick at it. She gets really upset in her general attitude also.

A couple days ago we were riding down the trail and a trickle of sweat was going toward her belly and while my mom was on her she started kicking at herself. Now I'm assuming its from the sweat, because until it came she was fine.

Since then I've sprayed her over and over and she kicks every single time.

Someone has suggested fungus, but that seems so odd. Does anyone else have any idea?
Our sweet Zoe girl is very unhappy quite often now :o(
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post #2 of 16 Old 08-04-2009, 02:55 PM
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If you can find no other medical problems, she may be experiencing hard menses cycles. Some mares are very sensitive and it can be painful even to the touch on the outside. I have no medical expertise in this area, but I did have a mare that was very much like yours. She would complain of even a soft brush.
I put her on Mare Magic and that seemed to help.
Try to keep track of what time of the month this is happening. If its only for a week or so out of every month, I'm betting that's what the problem is. There are lots of supplements to help out the mare during this time. The Mare Magic is an herbal. You may wish to try something else. I was happy with the MM though.


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post #3 of 16 Old 08-04-2009, 03:05 PM
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Sounds like her ulcers are back.
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Unfortunately horses that get ulcers once are very likely to get them again if the management conditions that make them more prone to ulcers aren't addressed. How is your horse kept--pasture, dry lot, stall? How much hay or grass does she have daily? What else do you feed? What do you use her for?

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I keep her in a pasture, we feed a couple flakes of rye grass hay, some beet pulp as well as alfalfa cubes. She's half arab half quarter horse. We use her for light trail riding. We really got her because she's tiny for my baby niece, so we really haven't done much with her. Is it normal then, for water to trigger it, but not a cinch or fly spray, or a flank strap....? thanks for your response!
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My daughter just incurred a $170 vet bill because her mare was acting colicky. She would take a few bites of her feed, then turn in a circle and lay down. Vet came out and chuckled a bit. Told daughter the mare would be fine and gave the mare some sort of injection for pain. Menstrual cramps in a horse. None of my other mares ever had a problem like that. Do they make horsey Midol?

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My daughter just incurred a $170 vet bill because her mare was acting colicky. She would take a few bites of her feed, then turn in a circle and lay down. Vet came out and chuckled a bit. Told daughter the mare would be fine and gave the mare some sort of injection for pain. Menstrual cramps in a horse. None of my other mares ever had a problem like that. Do they make horsey Midol?

Your daughter bought that line?

Horses do not have a monthly flow - therefore the uterus does not contract to eliminate the unused blood/tissue. Therefore - cramps? Nope. If a mare did cramp, they would die in the wild due to being vunerable to attach.

Your daughters mare very probably had a case of gas colic. The horse will lay down to shift the gas bubble.
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Your daughter bought that line?

Horses do not have a monthly flow - therefore the uterus does not contract to eliminate the unused blood/tissue. Therefore - cramps? Nope. If a mare did cramp, they would die in the wild due to being vunerable to attach.

Your daughters mare very probably had a case of gas colic. The horse will lay down to shift the gas bubble.
Somethimes, I think my daughter would buy that the sky was pink if that's what the vet told her!

The gas colic makes more sense. I have not seen the behavior since I started helping out with the feeding - so the horses get fed more regularly. I also changed the feed a bit to less grain and more fiber, which may be why I'm not seeing it happen?

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Your daughter bought that line?

Horses do not have a monthly flow - therefore the uterus does not contract to eliminate the unused blood/tissue. Therefore - cramps? Nope. If a mare did cramp, they would die in the wild due to being vunerable to attach.

Your daughters mare very probably had a case of gas colic. The horse will lay down to shift the gas bubble.

So is it not weird that my horse only "colics" when she has water or sweat running down her belly? I sort of thought they might be back, but do you think there's much stock in the "hard cycle theory?" making her tummy sore?
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post #10 of 16 Old 08-05-2009, 12:44 PM
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Yeah it does sound like your mare is more sensitive toward ulcers then other horses. My horse has ulcers but just by looking at him and watching him you wouldn't know it.
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