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post #21 of 33 Old 01-31-2010, 06:12 PM
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I am not at all surprised she is tripping. Why the heel calks?

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I am not at all surprised she is tripping. Why the heel calks?
I believe its making the hoof level, rather than making her walk with such a low heel. That is just what I see however. It could be something else.
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I am not at all surprised she is tripping. Why the heel calks?


The shoes are only temporary. They're to keep her from pacing. She's had them on for 8 weeks, though, and wasn't tripping at all during the first 6 weeks.
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To keep her from pacing and to keep her ?hoof level? I am confused. She may not have been tripping the first 6 weeks due to the next step of the trim? You did say he was changing her angles by raising her heels? Sorry, I disagree with doing this and believe that is why she is tripping. Low heels are not a bad thing.

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Okay, from the pics, I really do not see super short heels; what really needs to happen is her toe needs to be brought back further (front/back) not just "up" from the sole if you know what I mean?

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I think her toes look long and pointy, especially the left. It looks like the hoof capsule is running foward and the farrier is bringing the shoe forward to match the hoof. The problem is, if you keep doing that, the toes just keep getting longer and more distorted. I would say she needs her breakover brought back.

Just my humble opinion. I am not a professional farrier, but I did take farrier science, rode shotgun with a farrier for a while, shod my own horses, and study hooves on the internet constantly.

Speaking of which, here is where I go to learn a lot about hooves.

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You can even post your photos there and get professional farrier's opinions. It's a GREAT resource, just beware that they sometimes bicker a lot!


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To keep her from pacing and to keep her ?hoof level? I am confused. She may not have been tripping the first 6 weeks due to the next step of the trim? You did say he was changing her angles by raising her heels? Sorry, I disagree with doing this and believe that is why she is tripping. Low heels are not a bad thing.
He didn't tell me what the heels were for... but the shoes themselves are to keep her from pacing. He was shortening her toe and lengthening her heel, but that was a very minor change in the front... it was mostly in the back. Her heels were so low in the back that it was making her hamstrings sore.


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Okay, from the pics, I really do not see super short heels; what really needs to happen is her toe needs to be brought back further (front/back) not just "up" from the sole if you know what I mean?
I don't know what you mean... Sorry : /


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I think her toes look long and pointy, especially the left. It looks like the hoof capsule is running foward and the farrier is bringing the shoe forward to match the hoof. The problem is, if you keep doing that, the toes just keep getting longer and more distorted. I would say she needs her breakover brought back.

Just my humble opinion. I am not a professional farrier, but I did take farrier science, rode shotgun with a farrier for a while, shod my own horses, and study hooves on the internet constantly.

Speaking of which, here is where I go to learn a lot about hooves.

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You can even post your photos there and get professional farrier's opinions. It's a GREAT resource, just beware that they sometimes bicker a lot!



Okay, I'll talk to him about that and I'll definitely visit that forum. Thanks!
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I do not believe in trimming to change a gait. The hoof should be trimmed to the live sole plane(in a manner of speaking).. If she's stumbling then the trim this time is wrong. Period. Toes are too forward and the heels are too tall. That's what I see.

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I do not believe in trimming to change a gait. The hoof should be trimmed to the live sole plane(in a manner of speaking).. If she's stumbling then the trim this time is wrong. Period. Toes are too forward and the heels are too tall. That's what I see.

He never trimmed her to change her gait... All he did was put the shoes on. The reason he was changing her angles was because he said my last farrier was doing them wrong. The angles in the back were making her sore and the angles in the front weren't even consistent from one hoof to the other.

I'll talk to him about the long toes and tall heels. Thank you for the help.
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An 'English' rider would ask himself whether the horse had 'dropped onto the forehand'. Solutions for that condition are more complex.

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English riders don't just use that term. I also use it as a western rider as do many others.

I didnt mean to hijack sorry.

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