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  • Lipping of coffin bone
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    02-19-2013, 02:25 PM
I'm a rb convert. Used to feed Strategy. I don't think I'll feed any other way now aside from my old man that needs a mash. I feed Progressive Nutrition's ProAdvantage, it's a bit more pricey than the bigger brands like nutrena or purina but it is still so much more cost effective. It is currently running $34/bag.

What pleases me the most about it is my youngsters. I did feed ultium growth to the young ones but with my 9 month old filly we went the rb route for her dam and now for her. She gets 3/4 lb a day and free choice tim/orchard. She looks fantastic as do the rest of my gang.
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    02-19-2013, 02:52 PM
That's about the going price. My RB (Buckeye Gro N Win) is a quality feed and it is $26/50lbs

But, I am switching back to Triple Crown. My mare is in work now and I am going to TC Lite for a few more calories.
    02-19-2013, 05:09 PM
Green Broke
I see, you haven't switched him to a ration balancer yet. Just switch him. He will do fine if he has free choice hay and is an easy keeper. Get a plastic ziploc bag. Take a measuring cup full and weigh it on a good scale. You can sneak a baggie into the supermarket and use their scale. You will be amazed how little a pound is. From there on you can eyeball it.

If he acts like your starving him to death you can add some hay pellets to his meal for bulk. My fat old pony gets 1/3 cup of ration balancer and acts like her throat has been cut so I get the lowest carb hay stretcher I can find and mix a little with it for her. I guess this is the start of the second year of me feeding her like this and she hasn't lost a lb but she hasn't gotten any fatter either. Her overall condition and attitude have improved greatly.

My other 2 seem to need a touch more but not much. The large pony/small horse mare (never really measured, hovers at around 14.1 I think) gets the ration balancer and hay stretcher mix with a couple of measuring cups of the purina mini horse food added. She's a small sturdy app, senior horse. Tends to be chunky and cresty.

My TWH is 16.1 and gets 3 cups of the mini horse feed with her hay stretcher/ration balancer mix and a measuring cup of rice bran. Much bigger and long and lanky compared to the other 2 and in her early teens she just needs a few more calories than the smaller older girls. More than just lb for lb size difference would dictate but not much. I'm using very low carb/high fiber foods for all 3.

It works well for me because I feed outside in the pasture. The two bigger horses eat their special stuff up first. If I have to abandon my mealtime vigil because of subzero weather the pony only gets a mouthful of hay pellets by the time she thinks to run the other 2 off their dishes. Saves me frostbite, panic and worry. Usually her tummy is filled by a meal with an NSC value of 6.9 so she doesn't bother or there is only crumbs left anyway.

You want to get his carbs way down if he's having a little trouble with laminitis.

I could probably drop out the mini food for all that I'm feeding doesn't amount to much but it does seem to make the two bigger girls finish theirs a little quicker and leave my chubby old alpha witch with nothing to steal. Works for me. You will just have to play around and adjust and watch and adjust until you find it.
    02-19-2013, 05:22 PM
Green Broke
He hasn't been lame that I'm aware of but when I had X-rays done of his front feet it showed that he had a 1-2 degree of rotation in one of the front feet. Can't remember exactly off the top of my head. And some lipping? I'm not positive what that is. But anyway, vet told me he could loose 100# which benefit of the doubt it was freezing that day and his coat was puffy. Truthfully he has a huge hay belly. Though.

But I had him on 3# of safechoixe original which was still making him gain weight. I just spoke to the vet and she told me to watch his hay intake. (Which I cannot do as ill be moving him next week and hell have a round bail til spring) and just give him 2# a day to start of the RB along with the flax. (Which I'm going to reduce how much I give him a day after he's completely switched over to the RB)
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    02-19-2013, 06:12 PM
If he'll be on a roundbale and doesn't have to compete with anybody for it, he'll do just fine with 1 lb Ration Balancer and max 1 cup flax. In fact he should be doing alright with the hay alone, if it's decent quality

The lipping of the tip of the coffin bone happens when the angle of the hoof is not corrected after rotation( steep). The tip of the bone deteriorates slowly. Very important to keep him trimmed properly.
    02-19-2013, 06:40 PM
Green Broke
He is pretty low in the pecking order so I'm sure he will be chased some. Especially for the first few weeks.

I just got him and he's been on a 6 week trimming cycle with me and I have the X-rays to show my farrier next time he comes out :)
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    02-19-2013, 06:51 PM
Best bet would be to tape him once a week so you don't lose track. Or evaluate the body score regularly.
    02-19-2013, 06:57 PM
Green Broke
Off topic- Would the minor lipping and 1-2 degree of rotation be that big of a deal? Vet said it wasn't but to definitely keep his weight under control and keep his feet trimmed correctly.
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    02-19-2013, 07:21 PM
Hoof experts here can tell you more for sure. But imagine, the coffin bone has rotated, just a tiny bit, but it is pointing downward. This is where the lipping comes from. That tip is not meant to bear weight. So the proper angle of the bone has to be restored so there is no more deterioration. Heel has to be taken down to bring the tip of the bone up going by what the x rays show. Not hard, but has to be done and maintained. Im surprised the vets didn't suggest that?
    02-19-2013, 07:28 PM
Green Broke
She said it wasn't much to worry about and just keep him trimmed. I asked her if both were a huge issue and she said no aslong as he's sound. (Which he has been but probably needs shoes in the spring)
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