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    10-31-2008, 12:46 AM
  #11
Foal
What exactly should the Ca/P be? I have know idea so I wouldn't know what to look for. Also his hooves are getting really bad since we have moved is a Biotin supplement something to look into? I know it is in his feed but I have never seen his feet crack like they are right now.
P.S. I have a call into my farrier today.
Oh, and how do you know how much fiber you horse needs. Lol
Sorry for so many questions!
And thanks Luvs2ride for your input! Unfortunatly there are no dealers in my area.
     
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    10-31-2008, 07:48 AM
  #12
Started
CA:P should be 2:1 IDEALLY but adult horses can handle up to 4:1 ... most stuff has an inverted ratio and must be fortified with Ca

Fiber figure 2% of the body weight ofyou horse daily so most horses need 15 to 20 pounds of hay/fiber per day

Bioton alone is useless without the amino acid profile to back it...
     
    10-31-2008, 03:48 PM
  #13
Weanling
I told Blaze's owner that I'd switched his feed and her response was this:

"Tom wondered if that new feed has any corn in it..just because that adds warmth for the winter." Tom is the guy they used to buy their sweet feed from.

What should I respond? Corn isn't listed in the ingredients, which are:
Lant Protein Products, Processed Grain By-Products, Calcium Carbonate, Monocalcium Phosphate, Dicalcium Phosphate, Molasses Products, Forage Products, Soybean Oil, Salt, Thiamine, Magnesium Oxide, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin E Supplement, L-Lysine, Calcium Lignin Sulfonate, Copper Sulfate, Calcium Pantothenate, Zinc Oxide, Riboflavin Supplement, Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Ascorbic Acid, Vitamin A Supplement, Cobalt Carbonate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Manganous Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Ferrous Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Zinc Sulfate, Copper Chloride, Sodium Selenite.
     
    10-31-2008, 09:21 PM
  #14
Started
I will find you the MYTH about corn being a heating feed for winter the only thing HOT about Corn is HYPER HOT LOL
     
    10-31-2008, 09:24 PM
  #15
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Horse Feeding Myths and Misconceptions

Notice it is a GOVERMENT site not feed company

Quote:
Myth: "Corn and Barley Are 'Heating' Feeds."
Corn and barley are sometimes favoured as winter feeds because they are mistakenly thought of as "heating feeds." If "hot" implies high energy, yes, corn and barley are "hot feeds." However, corn and barley are not "hot feeds" if "hot" implies heat production.
Heat is produced in the process of digesting, absorbing and metabolizing any feed. And this heat is useful for helping the horse to maintain its body temperature in cold weather. The greatest amount of heat produced during digestion comes from the breakdown of fibre by the microorganisms living in the horse's large intestine. The higher a feed's fibre content, the more heat produced during digestion. Therefore, more heat would be produced from the digestion of high fibre feeds like hay or beet pulp, compared to heat produced from digesting low fibre grains like corn, barley or wheat. Although low in fibre, even oats produce about 25% more heat during digestion than other grains because of the fibrous hull surrounding the oat kernel. You can still feed corn or barley in the winter because they contain lots of energy, and energy needs are certainly increased during cold weather as the horse battles the elements. However, if you want to help the horse produce more body heat, feed more hay.
     
    11-01-2008, 12:23 AM
  #16
Green Broke
I was going to post that same quote, but you beat me to it PeggySue .

Corn can make a horse "hot", as in hyper, but it doesn't do anything to keep the horse physically warm. The horse needs lots of hay to stay warm, and a balanced diet to grow enough hair to stay warm.
     
    11-01-2008, 10:12 PM
  #17
Weanling
Thanks guys! I think his owner is going to be shocked when she comes out to visit him. He's already mellowed out so much, and they were always commenting on what a "hyper" horse he was.
     
    11-02-2008, 12:11 AM
  #18
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Originally Posted by missy06    
Thanks guys! I think his owner is going to be shocked when she comes out to visit him. He's already mellowed out so much, and they were always commenting on what a "hyper" horse he was.
tell her it has corn you really won't be LYING distillers dried grains are normally the "mash" left after a brewery or mill gets done making whatever they make LOL
     
    11-03-2008, 09:13 AM
  #19
Weanling
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peggysue    
tell her it has corn you really won't be LYING distillers dried grains are normally the "mash" left after a brewery or mill gets done making whatever they make LOL
Ha, no it's ok. I actually forwarded her on the link that was posted and told her I'd done my research around horse nutrition and what they need to stay warm. She was really appreciative and said she never does research herself.
     
    12-08-2008, 07:12 PM
  #20
Foal
Thanks for the excellent responses to my original question!! I'm very interested in locating the ration balancers, but I live in the middle of nowhere... I'm about to go through the list, but if anyone happens to know of a source in Iowa, sing out!
     

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