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post #11 of 19 Old 01-18-2012, 12:37 PM
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There should NOT be any Dust or Mold in any hay you feed a horse......
I feed all my horses round bales of 2nd crop alfalfa mix hay in the winter and have never owned a horse with heaves, have owned horses for 46 years........
Red Gate Farm & Vet Tech 2011 are correct in there post and the advice they gave you.
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post #12 of 19 Old 01-18-2012, 12:45 PM
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No, there shouldn't be, but with a round bale there is a much larger chance that there will be dust and such, and if so, when the horse sticks their head into it, they breathe in what IS in there. When the hay is put out in a feeder, or on the ground the horse is then able to breathe in clean, fresh air. Then is able to keep their lungs cleaner, and the heaves a bit more in control.


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My family has had horses for 40+ years. Granted I am only 24 years old, and have not had to deal with heaves, we bale our own hay, because we cannot afford to buy ours. Our field is an alfalfa grass mix, and at times can get a bit dusty. Especially with my dad's luck with weather, as in, no matter when he cuts, it ALWAYS rains.

Anyway...sorry about the rant, but the point I wanted to get to was that my barn owner, and friend, who has dealt with a heavy horse for many many years, swears by the not to feed round bales to horses in this condition. I am not saying round bales are bad, just not the best idea for heavy horses.
She has not had to give her boy a steroid shot in 3-4 years! So, she is doing something right.
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I feed all my horses round bales of 2nd crop alfalfa mix hay in the winter and have never owned a horse with heaves, have owned horses for 46 years........
It happens. Just as some people have asthma for no apparent reason - horses can develop allergies too.

It's also not just dust and mold but the pariticles from the round bale that they can breath in when they bury their face in the round bale for the 'good' stuff.

We have two horses with 'breathing issues' as the vet calls them. They receive an albuterol tablet am and pm during non stressful periods. Additional tablet in the afternoon when the weather is humid or very windy.
All hay is fed on the ground. If they are stressed, they recieve IV dexamethasone injections - on a sliding down scale. It is NOT a good idea to give a large dose of Dex and then nothing.

We have a hay chopper so we can chop and wet the hay easier. One of the horses does compete in an indoor arena and does fine. Our indoor is treated with calcium chloride to prevent dust problems.
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My family has had horses for 40+ years. Granted I am only 24 years old, and have not had to deal with heaves, we bale our own hay, because we cannot afford to buy ours. Our field is an alfalfa grass mix, and at times can get a bit dusty. Especially with my dad's luck with weather, as in, no matter when he cuts, it ALWAYS rains.

Anyway...sorry about the rant, but the point I wanted to get to was that my barn owner, and friend, who has dealt with a heavy horse for many many years, swears by the not to feed round bales to horses in this condition. I am not saying round bales are bad, just not the best idea for heavy horses.
She has not had to give her boy a steroid shot in 3-4 years! So, she is doing something right.
You have another friend that has a horse with heaves. Our horse Copper got heaves from having to eat from a round bale that was moldy (was not our call). Since then, feeding round bales would cause his heaves to flare up, and having to be near a gravel road. We moved him last September and have only fed them small square bales, which can also be dusty. The difference is that the horses don't have to bury their heads in the small bales to get the good hay. The outer part of round bales usually gets dusty and gets moldy where the twine is from being stored outside. We used to have to give him a steroid shot once a month to manage his heaves. Since we moved him, we haven't had to give him a single shot.

BTW draftgrl, how's the little guy doing? I'm going to have to come see him sometime.

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AH sorry usandpets!! I know poor Copper has heaves, just was trying to get my point across with DaShar's ol boy.

Yes!!! Come and see Traum, he's doing great, actually had a blanked put on him last night!


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We used to have to give him a steroid shot once a month to manage his heaves.
What shot did he get just once a month?
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If you are buying round bales that are twine wrapped and stored outside, then before feeding them you should remove the twine and any hay that you wouldn't want your horse to eat, Net wrapped bales shed rain and have less waste than twine wrapped bales.
And if the core or center of the bale has dust or mold, the whole bale is bad and should not be fed, I'd be looking for someplace else to buy my hay from.
Round and small square bales put up at the same time, from the same hay supplier should be the same, if the hay is put up damp your going to get dust & mold regardless, The size of the bale makes no difference.
Always buy second or third crop or cutting hay, first crop hay has all the old growth hay left over from the year before and all the new growth of weed.
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What shot did he get just once a month?
It was Triamcinolone Diacetate. It only has a small amount of steroid in it. It's mainly an allergy shot
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