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post #1 of 8 Old 06-20-2008, 03:30 PM Thread Starter
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POINT----My horses have had large grass bellies since they were set out on the property but now my one horse that used to not have any withers visable(of course he has withers) at all has withers like a TB....They havent lost weight, you can't see their ribs or hip bones or anything but it's like their bellies are weighing them down and it can not be good on their backs.They have just lost shape in just a week....????

FACTS___Alright, I have 2 horses let loose on 100 acers of pure tall green grass and they have been dewormed recently and are UTD on everything, My younger horse gets ridden usually every day and the other older gelding gets ridden lightly at least twice a week....Well I had to have my grandfather go out and feed and groom for the past week and yesterday was the first time I had seen them since exactly one week ago, I looked them down and there was nothing physically wrong but they look bad compared to usual.

QUESTION-----What is going on, how could they loose shape in just a week? Should I stall them part of the day or just wait a little while because now I will be back out to exersice daily again....??What should I do This can not be good on their backs....

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post #2 of 8 Old 06-20-2008, 04:09 PM
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Are their poops normal? I wonder if they are having some gas build-up also from the extra fermentation happening. How are they otherwise? How are the gut noises?
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post #3 of 8 Old 06-20-2008, 04:42 PM Thread Starter
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Are their poops normal? I wonder if they are having some gas build-up also from the extra fermentation happening. How are they otherwise? How are the gut noises?
Before when we had them in a corral half a day and out on the property half a day their poop was a like light forest green color and normal shape, now that they have been on the pasture for almost 2 months now their poop is a darker green but still shaped right, my older gelding George had diarhea(sp?) yesterday but I couldnt tell you for how long because I hadnt been out in a week, We'll be heading out later on tonight so I can see if he still has it or not. Thunder though is fine....

Other than them loosing shape so quick, they have been doing fine, we are about to get another addition, but a mare and she may be pregnant....Of course she wont be out with them right when we get her though.....Anyway yes other than the outta shape issue they are well, their gut sound are normal, I check that every other day, nothing out of ordinary....

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post #4 of 8 Old 06-22-2008, 10:38 PM
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If the pasture is rich, you may need to restrict their access to it, to avoid them becoming obese or insuline resistant & prone to founder. However, horses are designed to have food going thru their system pretty much constantly, prone to colic & other digestive problems if not, so be sure to provide hay - or at least straw for fatties - if you're going to corral them for half the day.

I would be calling a vet to do blood tests if you're concerned, as it could be a nutrient imbalance or something else causing the muscle wastage. However, if it's only at their wither, I'd be inclined to suspect it was saddle related. Do they move any differently under saddle?

More often than not, saddles are not built for a horse's comfort and can easily cause muscle wastage in a very short time - even hours or days. Even a good, well fitted saddle should be checked every few months, as horses and saddles both change shape with time. Perhaps with the weight gain and regular work, the saddles have started pinching them.
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post #5 of 8 Old 06-22-2008, 10:46 PM
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I've been thinking about this thread w/out coming up with any real answers. I know we used to have horses that developed quite the grass bellies; we finally started bringing back to the home paddock more. Y'know go out and graze free for the AM and then in the afternoon when it's so hot anyway, come back home and hang out in the shelter. How have the horses been now? I did think that maybe you just noticed the change "all at once" but it was actually developing the whole time. When we see our horses often, it can be harder to recognize little changes.
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post #6 of 8 Old 06-22-2008, 11:26 PM Thread Starter
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Loosie_- I am going to have the vet out soon && I can have him do blood test if needed....They havent been moving diffrently but tomorrow I will pay closer attention and let you know, I plan on buying my younger gelding a new saddle next week and I take him to the tack shop to have it fitted so that's taken care of, My farrier is good with saddle fittings so I will have him check my QH's saddle fitting....I mostly ride Thunder bare back though...

Northernmama_-I actually do think it has gradually been happening and I just noticed it all of a sudden... As of now I wont be able to corral them up because my grandfather has his calves in there...It may not be open for me for a while, I don't have a proper stable with stalls, they do have shelter out there though just not fully inclosed, We will have a stable, in a few months the building will start...

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I wouldn't stable them if it's not absolutely necessary. Horses need near constant movement and need to be given turnout & daily exercise if stabled.

Also, if you can restrict them for part of the day, it's best to keep them in in the morning & let them out arvos, rather than the other way round because the is much richer in sugar in the mornings.

If you can't use the corral, perhaps you can beg, borrow or buy an electric fence kit, so you can easily make them a small paddock, and you can then easily move it where/when needed too. It's relatively cheap to buy a kit & is portable & practical to work with. This is what I have to do for my boy - not only does he live on 100 acres & is fat, but he's a Houdini too, so I need the hotwire to keep him in! :roll:
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If you can't use the corral, perhaps you can beg, borrow or buy an electric fence kit, so you can easily make them a small paddock, and you can then easily move it where/when needed too. It's relatively cheap to buy a kit & is portable & practical to work with. This is what I have to do for my boy - not only does he live on 100 acres & is fat, but he's a Houdini too, so I need the hotwire to keep him in! :roll:
I can buy a electric fence kit next week actually, that's when I am out tack shopping so I will pick one up.... Should I seperate the two geldings? Or put them together when I set this up? How big should each paddock space be if seperated and how big if I put them together?

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