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post #1 of 13 Old 09-07-2010, 03:58 PM Thread Starter
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When to STOP MSM?????

A few months ago we added MSM to Cinny's SmartPak because the vet suggested it to make him more comfortable while being treated for a fungus that pretty much took over his whole hind end, from the butt down to his knees. I kept him on it the following month because I started working him harder and I was told it would help. Then just as I was deciding to take him back off, we moved him from a dry lot to indoors because I just couldn't handle how beat up he was getting by the other horses. He had a bite on the underside of his neck (I assume that NASTY pony did it) that swelled up the size of a grapefruit...it's been there two weeks, and is still slightly swollen today. With moving indoors, his ankles are puffy despite his daily turnout and continuing most of his normal workout.

So, when do most people stop giving their horse MSM? Do some of you keep your horse on it regardless... would it be better for me to keep Cinny on it? I have never given a horse MSM before in my life as I could never really afford it before...so I really don't know the ins and outs. Any help, criticism, advice is truly appreciated. I case you need more details, Cinny is a 7 year old paint in relatively good condition, and we are trying to build up muscle, especially on his topline.
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post #2 of 13 Old 09-07-2010, 04:20 PM
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Any of these oral joint supplements aren't really doing much. On a small percentage of horses they do help, but for most you might as well grind up money and put it in their feed. It sounds like your horse is not getting any benefit from the product and your time and money is going to be much better spent cold hosing or icing the horse's legs for 15-20 minutes after every ride to combat inflammation and help joint health.
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post #3 of 13 Old 09-07-2010, 04:25 PM
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We use MSM on our horses with skin problems/allergies and it does really seem to help. I don't see the harm in keeping him on it...Im just not sure if there is a huge benefit either.
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post #4 of 13 Old 09-07-2010, 10:28 PM Thread Starter
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bump, may I have a few more opinions please. I feel the info I get, the more informed the decision.
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post #5 of 13 Old 09-07-2010, 10:49 PM
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I use MSM for my draft. He's been on it for a couple of years and will continue to be on it. It does a lot of great things for horses. My boy is on it for his hooves but it also works good on his joints.

Our vets indicated it might take some time for the MSM to start working - sort of like when people start vitamins. Some notice quick results, some takes longer. Two weeks isnt' that long.

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post #6 of 13 Old 09-07-2010, 10:56 PM
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I used MSM for my old boy ( RIP Cash) he was riddled with arthritis .
Long story short I owned him for 6 years, sold him and bought him back 2 yrs later and 24yrs old .
He was so stiff he could barely trot , I started him on MSM and 2 weeks later different horse , The 3rd week we competed in a Gymkana . He kicked butt!

Can't comment if its good for skin problems but it worked wonders on his joints . I don't think feeding him money would have had the same effect lol

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I use MSM on my gelding as he had some on/off slight stiffness in his shoulder that the vet figured might be an old injury. Since he's been on it (couple months) I haven't seen him take a short step yet, and he hops right back up from rolling without pause. His joints don't pop any more either.

I totally believe in it, if it works for humans it might as well work for a horse. I also give it to my dog who is already getting dysplasia at age three.
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post #8 of 13 Old 09-08-2010, 12:32 AM Thread Starter
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Okay, another question. When we are finally ready to show, is MSM show legal in the States?
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I believe it is show legal...haven't heard otherwise and it is not on "The List".
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post #10 of 13 Old 09-08-2010, 11:43 AM
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I give my 5 year old mare MSM in her feed daily (smartpak of course), and it has helped her with noticable benefits. She injured her hock as a 2 year old and although sound to ride you could still tell she would be stiff during certain weather etc....after a week or so on Smart MSM I could tell she just felt better...much more fluid, no stiffness, and even my farrier commented on how much more comfortable she seemed when working on her feet (she had favored that hock in the past during trims). So she will be on MSM indefinetly...it did help her coat also. I don't see why if given in enough quanity a supplement wouldnt help a horse as well as in humans. So I guess I don't find it wastefull when I can actually see the results...also have my gelding on a vitamin supplement from smartpak due to his being a easy keeper (feed him very little grain but want to ensure he is getting the nutrients he needs) and he has never looked or felt better.
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