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    01-10-2010, 06:06 AM
  #21
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by sillybunny11486    
I donate time, not usually things.
Us, too. That way you know the good you are doing.

...and it seems that there are hundreds of these organizations. My wife gets 5 or 6 pieces of 'junk' mail every week from horse and animal rescue places that we've never heard of wanting $$s.
     
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    01-10-2010, 08:52 AM
  #22
Foal
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Originally Posted by PaintHorseMares    

...and it seems that there are hundreds of these organizations. My wife gets 5 or 6 pieces of 'junk' mail every week from horse and animal rescue places that we've never heard of wanting $$s.
Sadly, there are a LOT of unwanted animals.

Yes, it's good to check out a rescue or shelter before you adopt from them, but honestly, the vast majority are doing the best they can for the animals in their care and not trying to screw people over.
     
    01-10-2010, 09:19 AM
  #23
Banned
Completely my opinion, and a little bit of a rant:

The problem with a lot of small, private rescues for whatever animals is they're started and run by people who can't or won't make the difficult decisions about what animals are truly adoptable and end up taking in lots of animals that will never find homes, and that ends up sucking all their resources dry to the point they can't then take in the adoptable ones. To run a successful rescue, you have to be pretty ruthless about evaluating the animals and their chances of successful adoption. Admittedly, I would not want to be in the positon of making those decisions on a regular basis; it would be a brutal job.

If the case of my sister's and BFF's adopted dog horror stories, if the rescues had accurately represented the dogs the dogs would have never been adopted. And I'm sure it was some sweet, well-intentioned person who couldn't bear to see the dog put down and thought my sister or BFF was such a devoted animal lover that they were the animal's best shot. (My BFF eventually had to have her "bad rescue" put down)

The local equine rescue in my area is in exactly the position described above - it takes all their resources and more to maintain the herd they have now, the great majority of which will never find homes.
     
    01-10-2010, 09:42 AM
  #24
Foal
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Originally Posted by maura    
Completely my opinion, and a little bit of a rant:

The problem with a lot of small, private rescues for whatever animals is they're started and run by people who can't or won't make the difficult decisions about what animals are truly adoptable and end up taking in lots of animals that will never find homes, and that ends up sucking all their resources dry to the point they can't then take in the adoptable ones. To run a successful rescue, you have to be pretty ruthless about evaluating the animals and their chances of successful adoption. Admittedly, I would not want to be in the positon of making those decisions on a regular basis; it would be a brutal job.

If the case of my sister's and BFF's adopted dog horror stories, if the rescues had accurately represented the dogs the dogs would have never been adopted. And I'm sure it was some sweet, well-intentioned person who couldn't bear to see the dog put down and thought my sister or BFF was such a devoted animal lover that they were the animal's best shot. (My BFF eventually had to have her "bad rescue" put down)

The local equine rescue in my area is in exactly the position described above - it takes all their resources and more to maintain the herd they have now, the great majority of which will never find homes.
Maybe, but remember, what you consider "not adoptable" is different than what others consider not adoptable. I know a person who had a dog with spay incontinence (unknowingly adopted them that way) and kept the dog her whole life. I also know people who deliberately seek out dogs who have physical issues or senior animals, because they have the resources and will to help those dogs. There are rescue sites dedicated specifically to finding homes for disabled animals. As my dad the car salesman says "there's an a$$ for every seat."

BUT, rescues NEED to be honest about the health issues the dog may have. It's just wrong to misrepresent them to unsuspecting adopters.

I think it also depends on your definition of "successful" in terms of as rescue.. Is it to have the highest turnover possible? Finding homes for animals you think deserve a second chance, regardless of how much time it takes?

Personally, I think one of the benefits of the small, private rescue is that they can focus on a particular area of need rather than having to be ruthless like shelters do. If they have a thing for deaf dogs and want to focus on pulling deaf dogs from shelters, fostering them, and finding them homes (and there are homes out there for deaf dogs), then more power to them as far as I'm concerned.

My biggest issue actually is not with health, but rather with temperament. While most rescues will ruthlessly either refuse entry to or PTS human aggressive dogs some will not, and I do think that is wrong.
     
    01-10-2010, 08:37 PM
  #25
Trained
The money goes toward lobbying congress for legislation to restrict your rights to own animals. The more extreme the group, the more extreme the legislation. PETA doesn't want anyone to own any animal, period. They view it an animal enslavement. They'd rather they be dead than anyone enslave them. HSUS is more into fighting against circus elephants, carriage horses and puppy mills, but then end result still usually catches good well meaning responsible animal owner in the dragnet in the process. If you really want to help animals, donate at the local level. Your local animal shelter will put most of the money directly toward helping the animals that need it.
     
    01-10-2010, 09:23 PM
  #26
Trained
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Originally Posted by fire walker TWH    
man that's depressing. Makes you wonder if your helping animals by taking them to pounds or making it worse. People drop animals on us constantly and we try to find them all new homes ourselves but sometimes theres too many and we can't feed them. Last week I took the first pup ever to a dog pound. I hated too but had no choice. My barn is on a property 15 minutes away and between my house and the barn we get animals dropped weekly
I know I certainly started to wonder, after the cat incidents, and then when a puppy showed up on our doorstep one day; I was on a 1 dog limit with my landlord, and so I called the no kill shelter and asked if they could take him in (he was maybe 5 weeks old!), and they said "no, we don't have room, but you could rent\support a kennel until one opens up." I told them no thanks, I could take care of him myself for much less than they were asking per month, and I would still have a puppy on my hands, so I would still be shelling out extra anyway! I did actually go there that day, just to 'look' at dogs, and they had 2 open kennels!!! Anyway, long story short, I wound up getting my landlord's okay to keep him until I could rehome him (the 'rehoming' never happened...hahaha!), so things turned out okay anyway.

In some ways, I prefer to do my homework and buy from a reputable breeder, and I have taken in my fair share of strays! Hahaha! Atleast when you take in a stray, you don't have anyone's 'word' saying things that may or may not be true. You get the vet care immediately, and there are no surprises.

I do like to volunteer for rescues though, as giving your time is never a waste.
     
    01-11-2010, 03:16 PM
  #27
Yearling
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Originally Posted by farmpony84    
What? We are having the coldest winter on record in the past 15 years I think they said. I blame it on Global WARMING....
Where you live isn't the whole world, you know. Find a good map of world temperatures for the past few months, and you'll see that in fact a lot of the world is having warmer than usual weather. That's why it's called GLOBAL warming

And 15 years isn't all that long, really. In these parts we've also been having a halfway decent winter for a change, after a decade in which we might get only 3-4 weeks of decent skiing in a winter (I've still got cans of blue & green cross-country wax that I bought - in hopeful anticipation - in the early '90s ) but it's still nowhere near as cold or snowy as it was in the '70s and '80s.
     
    01-13-2010, 10:31 AM
  #28
Yearling
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Originally Posted by jamesqf    
Where you live isn't the whole world, you know. Find a good map of world temperatures for the past few months, and you'll see that in fact a lot of the world is having warmer than usual weather. That's why it's called GLOBAL warming

And 15 years isn't all that long, really. In these parts we've also been having a halfway decent winter for a change, after a decade in which we might get only 3-4 weeks of decent skiing in a winter (I've still got cans of blue & green cross-country wax that I bought - in hopeful anticipation - in the early '90s ) but it's still nowhere near as cold or snowy as it was in the '70s and '80s.
now this is interesting.... one person says the winters are colder and such all over because the polar ice caps are melting and cooling the temps of the oceans... the other says the world temps are increasing and winters are more mild..........
     
    01-13-2010, 11:40 AM
  #29
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by AlmagroN    
now this is interesting.... one person says the winters are colder and such all over because the polar ice caps are melting and cooling the temps of the oceans... the other says the world temps are increasing and winters are more mild..........
Well it depends on where you live. I live in Vancouver, Canada and last year we had record snowfall, we usually get very little snow here just a lot of rain. This year we are warmer than Florida - not boding well for the winter Olympics which start here next month. LOL
Parts of Australia had there hottest day and nightime "low" in over 100 years. The UK is havoing a lot of snow, the weather is weird.
     
    01-13-2010, 11:52 AM
  #30
Showing
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Originally Posted by kevinshorses    
Maybe someone should start a global warming thread.
Please do!
Do not hijack this thread and make it about something completely off the topic.
     

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