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    08-18-2011, 10:04 PM
  #1
Foal
White line? Or just crappy feet?

So my gelding's feet are pretty tore up. He's a TB so he has bad feet genetically, but this is getting a little hard. He has always had shoes on his front feet, but is currently barefoot due to abscess problems. His front feet are getting pretty brittle and torn up from the hard ground and gravel that he has to walk across to get to the pasture and arena, but its not out of control. His back feet however, are out of control. He has never had shoes on his back feet and has never had problems in the past.

Anyway, it looks like the hoof wall is separating from the sole, which I know is white line. The groove is getting deep but it doesn't seem like there is a lot of fungus in there. Is it white line? Or does he just need shoes to help his crappy TB feet keep it together? See pics!!

Thanks guys!!!
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    08-18-2011, 11:01 PM
  #2
Trained
He may well have some white line deterioration caused by the lack of care.

Rhe fix is proper trimming. His feet are in serious need of a trim. Shoes won't fix that. He will need some serious time to get back in order. His feet aren't brittle from walking across the gravel -- they are chipping off because they are too long, too much sole, flaring, too much heel...
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    08-18-2011, 11:14 PM
  #3
Foal
Lack of care? Um, no. His feet are well cared for.

In fact, that's what makes this bizarre to me. His last trim was 3 weeks ago, on July 26th. So recent I fear calling in for another trim would leave him to short. And as I said before, his rear feet have never had a problem (never been rear shoed, no stone bruising, ect).

Anyone know if trimming him again would cause more sensitivity? Would he benefit from shoes even though he has never needed them on the rear before?

If it is white line, is this something the farrier can help with or should I be calling a vet? I have a treatment for thrush that my farrier recommended to me, it says it treats white line too, but if that clears the bacteria up, what should I do for the chipping?

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    08-18-2011, 11:17 PM
  #4
Trained
I would suggest that you post pictures of his feet for a critique. From the pics you have provided, it is difficult to tell for sure, but as I said, I see heels in need of trimming, flaring and excess sole. But the angles are bad in the pictures, so I wouldn't bet my life on it.

There is a thread I think here somewhere that shows the pics we need to critique. I'll see if I can find it.
     
    08-18-2011, 11:21 PM
  #5
Trained
OK, I didn't find a thread about it, but I did find a link that will help you to know what pictures to take. I have not read the entire site, only looked at the "how to take pictures" page so please don't ask me anything about the site itself.

Good Hoof Photos - How to take Good Hoof Photos
     
    08-18-2011, 11:24 PM
  #6
Foal
Oh, ok thanks.

I'm not really looking for a critique, I am looking for information on white line. I fear he may have it.

Lets say he does, I have never dealt with it before. Does anyone have advice on treatments or what they did? Took those photos myself, maybe I can get someone to take a couple for me while I hold his foot.

Side note, When I ask him to lift his left rear he is reluctant and I can tell he doesn't want to put the pressure on the right. Could the bacteria be causing sensitivity kind of like thrush does?
     
    08-18-2011, 11:30 PM
  #7
Foal
Oh awesome, thanks
     
    08-19-2011, 03:03 AM
  #8
Weanling
The problem isn't whiteline disease. The problem is mechanical stress on the quarters causing separation of the wall and sole. As has been suggested, the horse needs a proper trim. Once done, a better determination can be made as to any potential need for shoes. Odds are fair, and dependent upon performance expectations of the animal, he'd probably go well barefoot on the hinds.

You said you weren't looking for a critique but rather, wanted information on whiteline disease. That's fine but, it's not the primary issue with the horse presented in the photos. The issue is poor mechanics. Excess length and failure to manage distortion (flares) in the quarters is responsible for the separation you're seeing.

If that trim is only 3 weeks old, it leaves much to be desired. No need to shorten the trim cycle. The only need is to properly address the capsule distortion and provide, if needed, any additional structural support via properly installed orthotics.

Cheers,
Mark
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    08-19-2011, 05:12 AM
  #9
Green Broke
Just because you just paid for
A trim doesn't mean he doesn't need another. You may need a new farrier. Those feet don't look like white line to me, but they don't look like a 3 week old trim.
Good luck!
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    08-19-2011, 09:10 AM
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Foal
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Originally Posted by Horseman56    
You said you weren't looking for a critique but rather, wanted information on whiteline disease. That's fine but, it's not the primary issue with the horse presented in the photos. The issue is poor mechanics. Excess length and failure to manage distortion (flares) in the quarters is responsible for the separation you're seeing.
Thank you! I was not looking for a critique, that's right, because HONEST to goodness his rear feet have never had an issue. His fronts, well, he has always been shoed in front, even from the program I rescued him from. I am glad to hear its not white line. Someone puts something in your head, and before you know it, you're on google looking at every image trying to compare.

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Originally Posted by cakemom    
Just because you just paid for
A trim doesn't mean he doesn't need another. You may need a new farrier. Those feet don't look like white line to me, but they don't look like a 3 week old trim.
Good luck!
Funny thing is, the farrier that did the trim, I LOVE. I moved my horse out of his territory and actually BEGGED him to come and look at his feet because we were having some issues. So the whole thing is bizarre. And it doesn't have anything to do with money, or paying for a trim. I was honestly worried about him being to short since he was so recently trimmed up. But it looks like he will need another one!
     

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