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    12-28-2010, 08:57 AM
  #11
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by Amir    
Glad you were able to get your horse out of there! I would be putting the word out to people I know to stay clear of that place.
Also, good on you for taking photos of this. Never know if you may need some evidence.
Evidence of what?

Lack of water - nope. Both of the water tubs have wet spots. By looking at the photos, it's a warm, arid climate.

Standing in manure? - For all we know, the horses eat in those pipe stalls and get turned back out into a larger turnout. The manure appears to be dry - not fresh and piled.

Feeding on manure? - Who doesn't know a horse or a dozen that love to manure on their hay?

"Her horses" - The OP also stated these were NOT her horses.
     
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    12-28-2010, 09:26 AM
  #12
Foal
You did the right thing getting your horse out of there.
Unless you incurred medical expenses from their negligence, I don't believe there is anything you can do other than warn other potential boarders of the risks.
     
    12-28-2010, 01:24 PM
  #13
Showing
Actually those "pens" are pretty clean IMHO. I kept my horse in one barn for several days (I moved her as soon as I found another place withing my distance and price range), the stall had 2+ feet(!) of old manure piled up. It took me 3 hours and like 7 barrels out to clean may be 1 foot of that 10x10 stall, AND the rest of manure was so compressed I couldn't dig it out.

However absence of water (even if there are wet spots) is a big warning sign about the facility. Personally I'd move my horse right on spot 2nd time I'd find her out without any water.
     
    12-28-2010, 02:23 PM
  #14
Foal
Full Board? I hope when you say you were paying full board, it was a super cheap full board.

Full board in my opinion means a safe enclosed stall (with a ROOF), cleaning, feeding, and fresh water at all times. Not to mention if I'm paying enough for it, daily turn out where a horse can move for than a few feet at a time. Gracious.

Sounds like you made a VERY VERY good decision to move.
     
    12-28-2010, 02:28 PM
  #15
Banned
I do not understand the whole make shift "stall" outside with no shelter...is it just for feeding or is this where your horse was kept.
The stalls are not that dirty my horses can come and go in their stalls all day and their stalls look like that after a few hours...And my horses also love to pee and poo on their hay..
And being as the water bucket is kind of small the horse could have drank it all.
But it probably was best that you moved
     
    12-28-2010, 02:30 PM
  #16
Showing
I'm not sure where many of you live, but in the southwestern part of the U.S., 'stalls' like these are not unusual.

In fact, there are places that have rows upon rows of pipe panels set up, and these are considered horse stalls, for which owners pay full board prices.

Not everything goes by the east coast standard of a 3 sided, roofed building with a door, to describe a stall.

In places where there's minimal rainfall and the climate is temperate to desert, there's no need to have a solid wood barn.

Of course, their hay prices will give you apoplexy, since it has to be trucked in from other states.
     
    12-28-2010, 02:30 PM
  #17
Weanling
Those pens are anything but clean.........IMO if they are not picked every 24 hours and picked completely clean ......then they are not clean enough for my horses or my boarders horses.

Feeding on manure can be just as bad as feeding on sand. Manure is a breeding ground for worms.......maybe their horse died of impaction colic due to an over abundance of worms?

I would be using big tubs tied to the pipe to feed out of.

I personally never feed of the ground.......only feed in stalls.

Super Nova
     
    12-28-2010, 02:31 PM
  #18
Showing
Super Nova, you NEVER give your horses hay in turnout? That's certainly feeding off the ground, you know.

My horses get fed off the ground quite a bit. Hasn't made them drop over from sand colic, or stuffed them full of worms. If you have a good handle on your deworming program, there's no reason to think your animals are going to die from worm overload just from being fed off the ground.
     
    12-28-2010, 02:35 PM
  #19
Banned
I have seen those types of 'stalls' out west. To me, those look pretty good. I don't like horses not having access to water at all times but...it does look like those horses did have water in the recent past.

Some people are just a bit too hard on their BO's. I understand that board is exceedingly expensive but so is keeping horses. You undoubtedly get what you pay for. If you don't, move on.

OP, I don't think you have much of an abuse case here. I think the stalls look passable at worst and while the water situation is troubling, there is evidence that there was water there at one time. As far as your horse getting hurt every two weeks, that just happens some times. I don't see anything about those corrals that looks terribly unsafe. You provided your own solution. You left. If you were that terrible disgruntled, you should have spoke up before moving your horses.
     
    12-28-2010, 02:40 PM
  #20
Banned
Super Nova,
My horses eat their hay in their fields as well and they are just fine. Although we have grass.. its not just dirt.
Even if their stalls had been cleaned they could have pooped all in them in a matter of hours.

Speed racer,
I honestly have never seen stalls like that, if it is humid/hot don't they need at least some shelter to provide shade?!? I wouldn't want to pay to keep my horse in a small area out in the hot sun but that's just my opinion.
     

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