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    12-29-2010, 03:10 PM
  #81
Weanling
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Originally Posted by HorseOfCourse    
I don't understand why, if you are so worried about sand colic, you don't invest in some Sand Clear.
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If this question is directed at me it is because there is no real scientific evidence that is actually works......according to the study I pasted .....it is suggested that just plan old fibre that removes sand.....which is what is contained in hay.

Beside I would rather prevent the problem if I can.

http://www.ivis.org/proceedings/aaep/1998/Hammock.pdf

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    12-29-2010, 03:14 PM
  #82
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
If you are going to be paranoid about a horse eating off the ground you can add eating in their stall to that. There are horses who have gotten impaction colic issues from eating bits of bedding when eating off the stall floor.


Kitten, I was just asking. I must say that MLS is the only barn owner that I know that provides salt for her border's horses.

I tried the outside salt block thing. My horses did not touch it (but I have a spot that will not grow grass anymore).
Well they don't eat off their bedding for the most part as there is very little bedding in their stalls due to the fact that I have soft stalls which require minimal bedding or none at all if they pee outside....I use a minimal amount on one side.......hay gets put down on the other side.

Its about minimizing the risks not completely eliminating the possiblity of ingesting sand.

I have 50lb salt blocks in all my stalls.....6 in total.

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    12-29-2010, 03:17 PM
  #83
Green Broke
That looks like a very typical Arizona boarding situation to me. I would almost bet that is down in Phoenix or outlying area.

Actually, from the description, I expect the manure build up to be worse!

It is so dry down there, that at one or more places I boarded, we would just rake manure from one end of the stall to the other, and it would dry out and be like saw dust in no time. Especially in summer, that is very typical. And then the horses isn't eating off the sand (but I always had my own feeder). So yeah, for better or worse, that doesn't surprise me at all.

The lack or water would worry me worse. When it is 115 degrees outside, I don't want my horses without water EVER. Even for 1/2 hour. They may not drink it constantly, but I always want them to have access to it.

And I would also want my horse to have a sun shade. But I have also known of places that didn't.

So yeah, typical AZ boarding situation. I'm sure that would run you close to $200 a month (including alfalfa hay, which is nearly the only kind you can afford and get). I used to pay around $125 a month 15 years ago. But hay has doubled in price since then!
     
    12-29-2010, 03:19 PM
  #84
Yearling
Well I use it and am going to continue to use it. I feel that it does help, and my vet is the one that originally recommended it to me.
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    12-29-2010, 09:57 PM
  #85
Green Broke
Oh how sad, they killed the ponies used in the psyllium study.

I read the link as I use psyllium on my horses, but not for the reason of sand. I had a couple old horses die of colic (well, they had to be euthanized because we couldn't save them) and a necropsy wasn't done, so I don't know if it was an impaction, twisted gut, entroliths or what, but anyway, my vet recommended feeding psyllium to my older horses twice a week to help prevent impactions.

Does anyone know if psyllium helps keep horses from getting impacted? I have never heard of anyone else using it that way, but that's what it's used for in people, to prevent constipation, right? Any thoughts on that?
     
    12-29-2010, 11:40 PM
  #86
Trained
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Originally Posted by Alwaysbehind    
Kitten, I was just asking. I must say that MLS is the only barn owner that I know that provides salt for her border's horses.
My BO has a mineral and white salt block provided in an area where all the horses can access it while turned out. My mare has loose mineral in her paddock though, that I provide. I've only been at one place (out of 4) that didn't provide any kind of mineral, or salt block...I DON'T expect that sort of thing though, and always provide my own loose mineral.
     
    12-30-2010, 11:35 AM
  #87
Weanling
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Originally Posted by trailhorserider    
Oh how sad, they killed the ponies used in the psyllium study.

I read the link as I use psyllium on my horses, but not for the reason of sand. I had a couple old horses die of colic (well, they had to be euthanized because we couldn't save them) and a necropsy wasn't done, so I don't know if it was an impaction, twisted gut, entroliths or what, but anyway, my vet recommended feeding psyllium to my older horses twice a week to help prevent impactions.

Does anyone know if psyllium helps keep horses from getting impacted? I have never heard of anyone else using it that way, but that's what it's used for in people, to prevent constipation, right? Any thoughts on that?
I think the reasoning behind using a product like psyllium is that it is fibre and fibre helps to keep the gut active and moving......but hay probably has more fibre and does the same job......beet pulp also has fibre along with extra water.........so not sure I understand your vets reasoning.

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    12-31-2010, 05:58 PM
  #88
Foal
Double post! Sorry.
     
    12-31-2010, 05:58 PM
  #89
Foal
Personally I don't think any horse should be made to stand in its own filth.. I am glad you have left this farm. It is funny to me that they care so much about a horse colicing, and their solution is allowing the horse to live in its feces. I am sure there are much better solutions.. To each their own I suppose!
     
    01-01-2011, 12:41 AM
  #90
Foal
If a person is concerned about sand colic use metamucill
     

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