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post #11 of 21 Old 03-11-2013, 01:56 PM
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If you are using it orally, you can just use the same needle over and over to get it out.

We also did this when i worked at a large stables. Its fine for small herds to use tubes, but if you have any size to a herd, its definitely better to use the cattle injectable orally.

Agree greatly on the trash from paste deworming a big herd. I wish some of the horse dewormer companies would do like Safeguard did and make a large tube for big herds.

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Agree greatly on the trash from paste deworming a big herd. I wish some of the horse dewormer companies would do like Safeguard did and make a large tube for big herds.
I addressed this very issue with a pharmaceutical company many years ago at Equitana and the response I got was it was too problematic for overdosing with the multidose tubes. I pointed out that when dosing drafts, I had to purchase 2 tubes and use a partial to give enough product... The response was "that's not our target market so it's not a problem... Idiot! Needless to say, I've never used their products since.
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If I had more horses I probably would. But seeing as I have 2 that I care for "the other 4 are cared for by the hubbys x" I just do the paste.

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I cant see how ODing would be a problem if they used the gun delivery system that safeguard uses. 1 click per 100 lbs. Simple. Im sure it has more to do with money and making less of it lol.
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If overdosing was a valid argument, how do they explain the dosing for ponies and foals? They're still idiots.
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Why market something cheaper when you have lots of folks that will buy into your marketing ploy that products for equine use only are better? Or that a product sold in only one size cannot be produced in a different way.
They have the market cornered and most of us will never question the way the p;roduct is marketed and produced. Shalom
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I just started doing it as well, as suggested by my vet clinic. The biggest reason is that I just hate messing with the stupid tubes. I have to deworm one draft, one draft cross, and several others, and it's just too complex messing around with partial doses in those stupid tubes.

Plus some of the horses are very adept at spitting out the pastes. The gel in the cattle dewormer is pretty much impossible to spit out.

The fact that it's also way, way cheaper doesn't hurt my feelings! And yeah, there's the waste issue, too.

However, I will use the other dewormers again, just to rotate chemicals and prevent the parasites from building resistance.
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I have a big 14 ga. needle that is left in the bottle. I just pull out the exact amount for each horse. There are not left-overs like there is when you use the tubes that are pre-filled for a 1200# horse. I can be much more exact with the liquid. Since it is not being injected, sterility is not a factor.

They cannot spit it out as easily.

When you deworm 50 head, there is a great difference in cost.

We also use Safeguard. We buy the big tubes, have a gun (like a calking gun only longer) and it has a rounded metal end that goes inside a horse's cheek and deposits the dewormer about 5 inches back between their teeth and cheek. Works better than any other paste and again, you cannot get the wrong dose and you don't waste any.

We use it a lot on foals and horses under 4 because it does a great job on Ascarids.

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Plus its just easier using the little syringes rather than those big tubes of paste when I am deworming by myself and have a reluctant horse. I waste less and its cost effective.
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dont see the point really of playing games,. Seriously why bother ? you are talking about maybe $30 bucks a YEAR ? for the pastes ? And to save that gonna fiddle fart around with needles, contaminated needles, contaminated bottle of drug, really ? Sounds penny wise and pound foolish
Here dewormer is $15 -$25 a tube, so Ya if you have a large number of horses the cattle dewormer is the way to go. I have a friend who uses it and hasn't had any problems.
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