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post #1 of 10 Old 10-30-2008, 11:08 PM Thread Starter
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wholistics for mares and spooky horses.

I was wondering if anyone has tried the wild yam root for their moody mare? Or the Valerian for their spooky horse? I found this web site and wondered if it was worth spending the money and try some of this stuff?
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post #2 of 10 Old 10-30-2008, 11:25 PM
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Funny..had this same thread two days ago! Must be a common thought! I am having the same issues. Although I have fed my horse Rasberry leaves an Wild Yam Root for years and swear by it... I thought about the Valerian Root for calming,but never got a lot of info. From here about it...just a lot of bashing about how I should change my feeding regimen first...been there done that....

I'll be curious to see how your thread goes and hopefully we'll all learn more from it!

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post #3 of 10 Old 10-31-2008, 12:21 AM Thread Starter
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I did a lot of the rasberry leaves and they never worked for me. I found that a harder/longer ride and more work took out the "Marishness"
I have also lowered her beetpulp and she is now down to 1/2 cup strategy 1/2 cup alfalfa pellets.

She isnt as crazy as she use to be and im content right now with her but just waiting for the next spook, you know. Other wise its been...well at least a month I think with out her spooking for no good reason.

So you do like the yam root? What is it exactly like real yams the kind you eat? So I could just grow them in my garden chop em up and give them to her? Lol

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post #4 of 10 Old 10-31-2008, 06:50 AM
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I tried raspberry leaves too. Not even a hint on calming down (not talking about PRICE on those "natural" calming agents ). So I went with the old Calm&Cool (with valerian root). I actually don't give the full recommended portion (just 1 scoop/day instead of 2), but it seems to work. It takes couple weeks to take effect though. I also know at least 2 or 3 local people (who show) who use it on all their horses and swear it keeps them in good attitude all the time.
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Yeah, the rasberry leaves and the WIld Yam are not calming agents. They actually help with the cramping that mares get. It makes them be more tolerable with their human counterparts. Just using one or the other doesn't seem to help. (Mare Magic is strictly Rasberry leaves) You have to use both though to see a difference. If your mare has no "Marish" tendencies, then no need to use it...

As far as the processing the Wild Yam...don't know! I buy it already ground up! Wouldn't it be nice to just plant them, dig them up, and grind them! I think my neighbors would officially think I've lost it!

The website you noted is actually the website I use for the herbs. Michele is a wealth of information! Email her with any questions you have and she get back to you quickly! She's been doing this for many, many years! She's actually the one I got the Valerian root idea from. Just wanted a second, third, and fourth opinion about it!

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Don't know about how Valerian affects horses, but my mom uses it when she's really stressed out/can't sleep. I also used it a few times when I was in Germany to help me calm down and sleep. And it really worked!

If you can get it, I would try it out and see.
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Thanks guys, yah I think the rasberry/yam root would just be a waste of money. I really want to try the valerian stuff though hopefully it helps but dosent take to much of her get up and go energy.

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post #8 of 10 Old 10-31-2008, 11:26 PM
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You are best off tryng minerals/vitamins in their purest form for things like that.
Excitableness/nervousness can usually be put down to a lack of vitamin B1 (thiamine) which is easily obtained through brewers yeast (one small scoop, say 20-30g a day in a hard feed). Can also be attributed to a lack of magnesium- calcium must only be given WITH magnesium or it stuffs their bodies up, so try Dolomite (pretty cheap for 1kg, and again, just a 30g scoop per day is plenty).
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What worked on both my spooky horse and my moody mare was to get them OFF sweet feed or feed pellets and on a balanced diet high in Magnesium. It calmed them both down and my mare's heats are MUCH more tolerable now!! I feed bermuda hay with their "grain" meal of chopped alfalfa hay, a few handfuls of whole oats, and Uckele's Equi-Base Grass. The Equi-Base is a vitamin/mineral supplement for horses getting little to no fortified grain. SmartPak makes one too, their SmartVite line.
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post #10 of 10 Old 11-02-2008, 01:07 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks guys!

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