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        10-27-2012, 12:01 AM
    Ahhh poppy great information. Did not know that. Thank you.
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        10-27-2012, 12:28 AM
    How can you tell if your horse has encysted worms?
        10-27-2012, 04:04 AM
    I think I heard from someone that their might be a bloodtest for it, but I'm not sure. Encysted worms do not show up on fecals, which is where my problem started. He's been on a regular rotational deworming schedule, with regular fecals and all his fecals have come back clear. He's been on antibiotics for 4 weeks now, and the vet thinks that this caused all the encysted worms to open up all at once (or a bunch of them anyways). On sunday, I found thousands of live worms in a pile of runny poo he had that morning, which is what told us he had an infestation (it was gross!). All poo is picked out of his stall and paddock every day, as I'm trying to prevent re-infestation.
    Thank you for the information on the runny poo! I'm make sure to immediately call the vet if I see one. His poo has been normal since that one episode on sunday.
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        10-27-2012, 04:11 AM
    As for the treatment deworming, he's on the two half doses to kill of a few worms, then a full dose to try to kill of the rest, then the fenbendazole to kill the encysted ones and any live ones remaining. Then a fecal and we'll go from there. I am very particular about his paddock cleanliness, so all the boarders are shocked that he has so many, while all their horses are worm free. They have all decided to deworm their horses for encysted worms though just to make sure. All horses are in individual paddocks. I'm shocked as well that he got them. Its kindof weird that the horse with the cleanest paddock gets them (all the other ones are filled with poo as they don't get picked). I'm thinking that he got them at the last barn he was at (which was a year ago), and they've been there this whole time.
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        10-27-2012, 08:23 AM
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    Yeap only way to test for encysted worms is with a blood test. They only show on fecals if they come out like in the ops case. If they are burrowed in a fecal wont catch them. Also a regular deworming schedule never guarantees he doesn't have worms. Did you know if you are out riding on trails and your horse stops to each grass that he just possibly infected himself with worms?
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        10-27-2012, 04:24 PM
    Do you know what the specific blood test is called? My vets a butthead, so I pretty much have to tell her what I want in terms of tests. I'd like to get him tested after the treatment to make sure he's clean.
    I will say that my boy's ordeal this year has made me much more knowledgeable in horse health care and has defiantly made me a better horse person.
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        10-27-2012, 09:55 PM
    Green Broke
    Honestly I'm not sure. I can look at my vet paperwork tomorrow when I find it but there were two blood tests on there. Not sure which one is needed to determine but they have to be able to read the results to interpret whether they have worms and whatnot. It's not just a positive, negative thing.

    I would be finding a new vet though. They should be able to tell you what is needed not the other way around.
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        10-28-2012, 02:53 AM
    Unfortunately this vet was the only one in the area that had the equipment to diagnose his other current illness. We had been treating his other illness for over a month when this showed up. I don't really think its a good idea to switch vets in the middle of this whole ordeal, but will definitely be finding a different vet if he pulls through all this. He only has a few weeks left to cure his other illness before he's put down, so switching vets may not even he necessary (as he's my only horse).
    I'll do some research on the blood test and discuss it with the vet. Usually once I suggest something, the vet is usually all for it now (she wasn't before, but now that she knows I'm usually always right in what my horse needs, she's very receptive to my suggestions). My horse would be dead by now if it wasn't for me begging and demanding for certain tests and medications after tons of research.
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