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    08-30-2011, 09:41 PM
  #1
Foal
Wormers

We are fairly new to horses a couple years. I was wondering about best wormers. Best rotation for wormers etc. All recommendations are appreciated.
     
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    08-30-2011, 09:51 PM
  #2
Green Broke
The best resource for this information is your vet - they can assess your horse(s)' parasite load, risk and best course of prevention to be followed. There are so many variables that go into the proper protocol that there is no other way to answer your question.
     
    08-30-2011, 09:52 PM
  #3
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by HappyHeartFarms    
We are fairly new to horses a couple years. I was wondering about best wormers. Best rotation for wormers etc. All recommendations are appreciated.
Having just re-read your post - are you saying you have had the horse(s) for two years and are just now asking this question?
     
    08-30-2011, 10:14 PM
  #4
Foal
Wormer

I have asked the question many times. I have got many answers. I am getting ready to stock up on wormer and wanted more opinions.
     
    08-30-2011, 10:52 PM
  #5
Started
This may or may not help you, but this is a ist of the types of dewormers and the worms that they kill
Ivermectin based: target large strongyles, small strongyles, pinworms, ascarids, hairworms, large-mouth stomach worms, bots, lungworms, and intestinal threadworms.
Pyrantel pamoate based: target large strongyles, small strongyles, pinworms, ascarids, and tapeworms when double-dosed.
Moxidectin based: target large strongyles, small strongyles, pinworms, ascarids, encysted cyanthostomes, hairworms, large-mouth stomach worms, and bots.
Fenbendazole based: target large strongyles, encysted early- and late-third-stage and fourth-stage cyathostome larvae, small strongyles, pinworms, and ascarids.
Praziquantel based: target tapeworms.




Your best bet is to have your vet do a fecal so you can know what worms your horse has so you know what to use when deworming but if you can't do that then I would alternate with an Ivermectin and Fenbendazole
     
    08-31-2011, 08:34 AM
  #6
Showing
Fecal egg count test. Positive -> talk to the vet. Negative -> deworm 2-3 times/year, at least once with Zimmectin Gold or Equimax (to take care of tape worms that don't come up in fecal test).
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    08-31-2011, 01:46 PM
  #7
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by HappyHeartFarms    
I have asked the question many times. I have got many answers. I am getting ready to stock up on wormer and wanted more opinions.
My point in asking was that there is actually no need to "stock up" because de-worming should be approached minimally - to the point that stocking up too much would cause you to lose product by exceeding expiration dates prior to using it all.
Have you asked your vet (you say "many times, many answers" - which would seem you must be asking several people - so I am struggling to understand how/why the answer you would get from an internet forum, where you will also receive a wide variety of answers, is going to be any more help)? There is a growing issue of resistance in parasites that is being caused by overuse of the chemicals used to control them. This is why there has been the shift towards a minimalist approach to de-worming. Using targeted treatmet that fits what is needed for each animal is a much better approach.
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    08-31-2011, 02:14 PM
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^^ This ^^

According to my vet, the goal is not so much to get rid of all of the worms, as it is to keep a wormload at a realistic level. (Realistic as in a few as possible.) Most horses, dogs, cats, etc can have a worm count that - as long as there is no harm being done - the animals can tolerate. With that in mind, instead of worming every month or three months, we do a fecal count on our horses, and worm only as necessary. We don't test each horse, but test about half of them one time around and the other half the next time around. Since they all stay together, that should work out okay.

Sound a bit strange, coming from me, as for nearly a year I had some serious trouble getting my mare to gain weight - she looked awful. Vet ran a fecal count, which was negative. However, he was still suspecting a high worm load as the culprit - we Power Packed my mare (and all the rest of our horses) with Panacure, and the change was pretty dramatic. Seems my mare, and apparently the rest of our horses, had a high load of "encysted larvae." The regular wormers were killing off the adult worms, but the larvae were what was doing the real damage.

Hopefully, now that we have things under control, we won't have the high larval counts again and can manage the adults as needed.
     
    08-31-2011, 02:58 PM
  #9
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Originally Posted by kitten_Val    
Fecal egg count test. Positive -> talk to the vet. Negative -> deworm 2-3 times/year, at least once with Zimmectin Gold or Equimax (to take care of tape worms that don't come up in fecal test).
I personally will not use Zimectrin Gold, I had a horse have a horrible reaction to it. I like using Equimax. It actually contains more deworming product too.

My vet says (for low/none shedders) Moxidectin/praziquantel in the spring and Ivermectin/praziquantel in the fall.


Theories on deworming have for sure changed over the last couple of years from what they were before.
If this is a topic you have not discussed with your vet it is worth bringing up. Different parts of the country have different protocols to follow.
     
    08-31-2011, 07:46 PM
  #10
Foal
Thanks for your input

We are pulling the annual coggins next week. When we do that we will get the fecal matter checked. We are in Florida. We have to watch worms real close with all our animals especially in the summer. I appreciate you input especially the break down of what each wormer does. Thanks again.
     

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