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post #21 of 33 Old 04-27-2010, 02:27 PM
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Thank you, Ryle, I was hoping you would come along and see this thread (and the other in which Duma was discussing his beliefs on worming).
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Not all dewormers have the same medication either. There are several classes and you are supposed to rotate.

The ABSOLUTE BEST thing to do is get a fecal egg count on EACH horse and THEN deworm according to what your results are. Is it a little more expensive? Yes. Does it decrease the incidence of resistant parasites and un-needed deworming? Yes.
that's what we do with my vet. Its also NOT more expensive bc we only deworm two or three times a year & get one or two fecal samples tested, so for us it adds up to the same amount OR LESS.

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post #23 of 33 Old 04-27-2010, 03:22 PM
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Ryle, are the home fecal tests worth buying? I believe SmartPak sells one.
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I deworm every 3-4 months. The show barn that has multiple Morgan Horses nominated for World and National futurity, whose horses are all valued at $10,000+ once trained for Park and Morgan WP and EP, get dewormed every 4 months, and vaccinated once a year with one Wesnt Nile booster. That's it!
I bet you could go 5 months if you used a good dewormer and they were kept in virtually worm-less conditions! :)
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keep in mind that about 50% of horses can take care of parasites on their own

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Ryle, are the home fecal tests worth buying? I believe SmartPak sells one.
All those kits have is something to pack a fecal sample in. Really, you can handle that yourself with ziploc baggies (double bag it). You can definitely collect the sample and send it off to a lab, but you really need to be sure to keep the sample COLD during shipping so that the eggs don't hatch and thus end up not getting counted.

If you are going to send them out on your own, contact the lab you intend to use and ask them how how they want it shipped and what days they are there to receive samples. You want to send it when they will get it right away and run the test. And they often supply the sample containers. If they only do testing Monday through Friday you wouldn't want your sample to arrive on Sat and sit for the weekend because the eggs can hatch and change the result.

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Do you have any labs in particular you would recommend?
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Okay, this is the second post from you regarding deworming and I have to say you are seriously overdosing your horses. The first post just said you were worming monthly - but TWO dewormers in a month? Not only are you wasting your money, you are shooting yourself in the foot by building a resistance in the parasites. Exactly which equine specialist has advised you to dose so recklessly?
Actually you are correct 2 dewormers a month is most likely a wast of money. However over medicating will actually not build a resistance. Resistance comes from under medicating or not finishing medication.

Best bet is to TEST the horse before deworming the horse. At times a power pack is needed which is 3-5 days in a row of a given dewormer.

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Over deworming will most certainly build resistance. No dewormer kills 100% of the parasites in their different life stages in the horse so with every dose of dewormer you have some parasites who are not killed but have been exposed. This is one of the reasons that resistance develops.

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im not sure about sending them out, but the vets around here do them in the clinic [well me & another girl at work do them in the clinic] you don't need a huge sample, we just look at 3grams, so 1 or 2 'apples' is enough

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