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    12-16-2010, 09:38 PM
I taught my foal to take dewormer by giving him applesauce in an empty dewormer tube. He actually comes up and wants to put the tube in his mouth.

What I usually do is give him some applesauce first, then the real dewormer (or antibiotic or whatever I have to give him) and then after he eats the nasty stuff, another squirt of applesauce.

Now is mother is a whole 'nuther kettle of fish. She will take her dewormer once you get the tube into the side of her mouth, but she will put her head all over the place to try to avoid the tube. So you are wrestling with her until you are able get it into the corner of the mouth. Then luckily you are okay and she will take it and swallow it.

I have been doing the applesauce thing with her too, but because she is so ingrained that tube=nasty dewormer, I will still have to wrestle her to dose her with the applesauce. So I am working on that. She's really funny, because she can smell the applesauce and wants it, but the minute you try to give it to her like dewormer, she fights you. It's kind of funny! I'm like having to force-feed her applesauce. But if I practice it more, I think she will get better at it, because she just has to learn that sometimes GOOD things come in tubes too!

But the foal is much easier to deworm than his momma! He doesn't have the negative associations with the tube that she does.
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    12-16-2010, 09:41 PM
Originally Posted by mbender    
Taste it! Dare ya :p
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I tasted powdered bute once. Because it smells so great- like fruit or something, but the horses hate it, even mixed with sweet feed. So I put a little on my finger and tasted it. It was yucky! The horses were right- the smell does not make up for the taste!
    12-16-2010, 10:15 PM
When I was younger(like last year) I tasted all tess's feed. How can they like that crap!!
Especially the copra meal and the pony pellets! Molasses is nice though ;)
    12-16-2010, 10:29 PM
Sweet Feed is pretty good... I've always wanted to try beet pulp. It smells so good when it's soaking in hot water.

I had a horse that would freak out as soon as he saw the tube. So, I just put my toughest deer-skin gloves and held onto the lead rope until he calmed down. Then each time he would calm down I'd move a little closer and waited and repeated until I was directly beside him. Then I ended up working on his face. Which took a very long time. I wish I had thought of the applesauce thing...
    12-16-2010, 10:55 PM
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Got grain?
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    12-16-2010, 11:22 PM
You can also try the apple flavored paste....my girls love it.
    12-16-2010, 11:43 PM
LOL my problem isn't getting the tube INTO Willie's mouth, it's getting him to swallow it.

For two years I just used daily wormer that was pellets and went in as a supplement, but it got too expensive to maintain so I had to switch back to the paste tubes. He absolutely loathes it and can hold it in his mouth for hours. I've watched him. If I don't watch him he'll find a fence or something to wipe it all on. He's turned it into an art. I've used the flavored paste (I tried that most recently, no luck), the type that's more like a gel and is supposed to dissolve (eh, wrong), mixing the dewormer similar to how faye has described it (page 1) all to no avail. I just have to wait him out. Eventually he'll swallow it, but as soon as I can afford it I'm switching back to the daily pelleted stuff.
    12-16-2010, 11:50 PM
They do make a pelleted wormer that you can mix in with their regular feed. I don't know how well it works compared to the paste wormers, though.

Dancer was a real b**** to worm when we first got her. I'm kind of a no nonsense person and expect my horse to behave. Guess she hadn't been wormed very often. Wound up standing on her right side, facing the same direction she was. Left hand on the halter and standing very very close so she really couldn't see what was coming. Didn't want to be too sneaky and startle her, so I just rather matter of factly stuck my thumb in her mouth with the same hand that held the halter and ran the tube in on top of my thumb and splooged it into her mouth.

It was pretty anticlimactic, really. She fought like a wild beast that first time until I got her to calm down and just "got it over with." She still doesn't like it, but she doesn't fight me either.

Most of you know that we've had problems with her weight lately. Wormed her nearly two weeks ago with Panacure. Cripes! Almost wished I hadn't! Her big belly deflated and she looks worse than ever! Then again, she's gained twenty pounds since then, so I guess it's all good. Get to worm the darlin' again this weekend. Oh the joys of owning a horse!
    12-17-2010, 12:33 AM
Im worming again soon, that's why I asked for some advice, thanx guys
I did use the pellets but they made her swell, the box even said that they might make them swell, nut of course we didnt see that bit until she took a big mouthful of em'! The apple flavoured ones don't work for Tess :(
    12-17-2010, 12:45 AM
I think like 95% of horses hate dewormer. Being 5'3" doesn't help me a ton but usually with a stool I can get most horses done. It's mostly about technique and keeping the horse's tongue moving so they have to swallow it. This applies for anything you're giving, dewormer, bute, antibiotics, etc..
The first thing I do is grab the halter and the horse's lip with one hand, then I put the tube of whatever I'm giving into the horse's mouth where there are no teeth, making sure it is pointing to the back of his throat right down the middle of the mouth. Then I squirt. The trick is to get all this done in about 2-5 seconds before the horse can really develop an action plan. At this point most horses with throw their head up in surprise and swallow. Some who are more crafty will keep their mouth totally still. In this case I move the head up with the hand holding the halter and lip (after moving the hand under the chin) and with the syringe (still in the mouth) I poke the palette and/or tongue to get the horse to move his tongue and swallow.

The trick is the element of surprise :P With horses who are very fussy it helps to have another person to aid in holding the head still. And sugar also helps. Feed a sugar, wait till he's eating it and then swiftly squirt the stuff into his mouth.

Good luck!

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