07-10-2009, 09:45 PM
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#41 | Weanling
Join Date: May 2009 Location: Charleston, South Carolina
Posts: 574
| Are those flies all over her legs? You must get her out of the filthy wet conditions. Find somewhere you can put her that is cleaner.
I would also be tempted to clip her pasterns and fetlocks, so you can keep her lower legs clean and get the cuts healed up. |
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10-29-2009, 03:47 PM
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#42 | Weanling
Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: a rural area in Ohio
Posts: 735
| Please please please try putting him on this supplement! It's called Dumor Hoof and it made my Clydesdale's hooves grow out so much I had to stop using it. Use it until they grow out right. |
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10-29-2009, 03:54 PM
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#43 | Started
Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SouthEastern PA
Posts: 1,739
| get some fake hoof cauck and make her a hoof. vettec.com has alot of good products. althought it needs to grow, you still need regular trims. what do the rest of her feet look like? put down straw, mulch or fine gravel if you cant get her out of the pasture. |
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10-29-2009, 04:14 PM
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#44 | Yearling
Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas
Posts: 1,449
| I was thinking, just to keep her out of the mud, could you put a tarp down, and either stake it or tie it to keep it in place? They way she's off grass and the hard ground, but out of the wet muddy mess.
They need to be cleaned daily. Unfortunately, all your efforts will be foiled if you cannot clean them daily - bacteria is just going to gather and eat away any new growth.
if she won't hold her feet up very long, it's likely because it's hurting the leg/foot she's now standing on.
I agree with NuttySaddler's idea to do it in short spurts. If she won't hold her feet up long enough to be picked, try getting a water hose ready and running (maybe with a spray nozzle) and sort of "power washing" the dirt out when she picks up her feet momentarily. Let her rest between times she has to pick up her feet.
I would say do this on dry flat ground. Put down a towel for her to put her foot back down on so soak up extra moisture and get the bottom of the foot very clean and dry.
I definitely agree with getting second opinions. Talk to your vet and farrier about EZ Boots, or about something you can put down over the mud to keep the feet clean - because standing in that mud is going to cause your boat loads of problems. |
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10-29-2009, 10:35 PM
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#45 | Weanling
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 564
Horses: 0 | Have only read first page, so I may be repeating, but get onto hoofrehab.com & study that for starters, get onto safergrass.org & study that, regarding diet for lami-prone horses. If she is in a lot of pain, keeping her in the mud may well be best for now, but exercise is one neccessary factor for rehab, so get her some boots &/or pads, to allow her to exercise comfortably. Using something such as Vettec SoleGuard in order to keep her soles protected but also supported is very helpful. I don't agree with using 'hoof hardeners', as that's not what she needs, it's thickness & concavity that she needs, which can only be grown in.
Anyway, short & incomplete reply, but out of time. Hope it helps! |
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10-30-2009, 11:03 PM
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#46 | Weanling
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 470
| Try MTG for the cuts I would get the farriers butt back up there he should be helping you fix her hooves |
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10-31-2009, 11:50 PM
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#47 | Started
Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SouthEastern PA
Posts: 1,739
| talk to your vet about everything. get your vet and farrier communicating and on the same page. horses often stand in mud to cool hooves and releave pain, but if shes avoiding the mud, its obviously hurting her. if its too thick/ deep its puting a strain on her ligaments and tendons. |
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11-01-2009, 01:07 AM
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#48 | Foal
Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Looking forward to moving to a farm in upstate New York this fall
Posts: 9
| There are several homemade remedies you can try for her mud fever, like 50/50 extra strength diaper rash cream (the 40% zinc oxide one) and furazone mixed (you have to wear gloves, it's carcinogenic to humans), or the 50/50 Lotrimin athlete's foot cream and Farnam Three-Way Ointment, but I prefer a product called Colloidal Silver, from Applied Equine Podiatry. It's a natural product, and it works. Scrub the areas at least daily with warm water and betadine to keep the bacteria at bay. You'll have to play around with remedies for mud fever, because it seems no two products work the same on any two horses. Also, No boots while she's in that mud. Even with holes in the boots, there is urine, manure, and all kinds of bacteria in that mud that will be impossible to keep out of any boots, and boots will just hold it against her feet longer. No Keratex, it contains formaldehyde- bad juju for hooves. If you already have it, limit it to the hoof hardener, not the gel, and NEVER on the frog, and no more than once a week. No hoof bondo, or fake hoof stuff, because you could seal in some nasty bacteria. No bleach, no hydrogen peroxide, and no heavy metals, like copper (Koppertox- bad juju). Those dry out the soles and can damage surrounding healthy tissue. Try to steer toward more natural products, if at all possible. The less harsh chemicals on or in her body right now the better. Anything else could be toxic or do more damage than good. You can spray her soles daily with apple cider vinegar once she'll let you lift them. They probably hurt pretty bad right now. FIRE your farrier, especially if he tried to nail a shoe to that poor girl's feet. No more shoes, no more farriers, ever. It's just not healthy. It is imperative that you Find a Natural Barefoot Trimmer as soon as you can. Google it. I found one that travels three hours to Virginia Beach for my geldings. Read anything and everything you can by PETE RAMEY and JAIME JACKSON. Most of their information is on their websites. Study safergrass.org, even though you may not be able to change her current environment or your situation right away. Google barefoot horse care and read everything, even in Austrailia. NO pelleted feed, NO grain, NO alfalfa, and especially NO supplements of any kind unless you've had her pasture and/or hay tested and know exactly what she needs or doesn't need. You will either over-supplement or under-supplement, and each is potentially dangerous, especially for a horse is already stressed. NO more bute, oral medications just compound the problem for her. Both of you have a long, tough road ahead, but your natural barefoot trimmer and your new-found knowledge of horse care will get you there. It sounds like you have a real sweetheart there, and she deserves the best care possible. Bless her heart, and yours. Good luck, our prayers and positive thoughts are with you and your girl! |
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11-01-2009, 01:54 AM
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#49 | Weanling
Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 507
Horses: 0 | I know this is an old post but I am concerned about the delamination I am seeing. Did the ferrier say anything about your horse having white line disease? Sure looks like a bad case. How have they been doing? |
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11-01-2009, 02:37 AM
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#50 | Foal
Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sunny Coast QLD
Posts: 115
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Originally Posted by FehrGroundRanch I am gonna have to disagree with Equestruin in this case!
It is good for a horse to stand in mud for certian amounts of time and it will not make the hooves dry and brittle the exact opposite actually. A horse needs to take in some moisture thru the hoofs (that is where the mud comes in) However they shouldn't be standing in mud all the time because then they will develop thrush.
Whlie her hoofs are as short as they are I would also advise you to leave her on as soft as ground as possible! If the coffin bone has already started to rotated don't take the chance of putting her back on grass. Founder is a very serious matter and should be handled accordingly.
Her feet aren't terrible, I have seen much much horse (where the hoof has actually turned up so much that it is touching the front of the leg) You are doing the right thing by having her routinly checked my the farrier and vet. Keep up what you are doing and be patient for that hoof to grow back correctly.
I do advise taking her off the bute though and let her deal with some bit of discomfort for her own good. Bute is not good on a horses liver, same as drugs are harmful to a humans liver. | Im sorry but a horse with feet as damaged as this ones should not be in the mud period! You risk infections like seedy toe & greasy heel in horses with great feet let alone this one.... an infection will take hold very quickly and cause a huge amount of damage ! It will slow her founder recovery too. Get her on some grass and use a grazing muzzle.
Ps If you have a nice grrassy paddock and it has been raining the ground will be soft..... Common sense really.
Best of luck |
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