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    09-03-2013, 07:38 PM
I have a navicular horse who is doing just fine at age 20. She is kept barefoot.

I would take a close look at his hoofs. Compare the frog size/shape to a normal bare-foot horse's frog. Is his hoof contracted?

The problem with shoes is they can cause hoof contraction. When the hoof contracts it inhibits shock absorption and can cause navicular.

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Getting the hoof to expand, should help the horse stay comfortable.

If you cannot afford shoes, you could try hoof boots. If the foot is contracted, the foot really needs a cushion to help with shock absorption. Hoof boots are better than shoes in that regard.

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Unfortunately my mare's condition was diagnosed too late. The contraction was irreversible. I often wonder if it was caught earlier if we could have gotten her hoof to expand. By the time I learned farrier work, it was years too late.

It is possible to get the horse stabilized at least. My mare has had "navicular" for 13 years now! I don't think it has really progressed. Her lameness has not gotten worse so I have not done more X rays to check.
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    09-05-2013, 12:54 AM
Have you tried boots? Would he be sound in boots for light riding?
    09-05-2013, 01:32 PM
Green Broke
I don't know if he would be. He's just a pet now enjoying his off time being I unexpectantly got a lease to own.
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    09-16-2013, 08:42 PM
Green Broke
So I need opinions.

I had his shoes pulled Friday and he was okay but sore which was expected.

He doesn't really want to walk much as before and is noticeably sore/lame when bringing him into the barn. He doesn't even want to walk in.

Should I give it another week or two? He was not like this last year and I pulled his shoes when the ground was hard. He was sore but not like this. I've been applying Venice turpentine to his soles but what do y'all think? I'm pretty sure he is hurting alittle. He's on previcox as well so I can't bute him on too of that.
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    09-16-2013, 10:18 PM
Duct tape styro foam to his soles that will make him more comfortable. Iv done this makes a huge diffrence.
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    09-17-2013, 09:39 AM
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He could be sore for a few weeks so padding his feet is the best option - Styrofoam fastened on with vetwrap duck tape - be sure to remove regularly and have his feet scrubbed out with a hoof disinfectant as you're making a great breeding ground for bacteria and fungal infections at the same time you protect his feet
You could try some hoof wraps like these - I'm using them right now on a horse that's got a sore foot. I got mine from Tractor Supply, you can get a gel insert to put inside them or improvise with Styrofoam etc.
They stay on in the field fine and are a lot easier to put on than wrapping tape around a foot!!
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    09-17-2013, 10:41 AM
Originally Posted by shalisha    
Yes. I think it would be cruel. He's at your mercy. I think it's pretty selfish to put your monetary and riding needs ahead of your horse's comfort and health.

Your statement ".... but if he needs it badly...." gee, it sounds like you're willing to let him suffer, as long as it's only nominally. I have a problem with pet owners who care more about their pleasure than the comfort and care of their pet.
Boots clearly stated that he is pasture sound and would not be ridden without the shoes. This horse is lucky to have an owner who is willing to keep him as a pasture pet, there are a lot of people out there who wouldn't hesitate to send a horse to auction like that.

The ignorance on this rock is criminal ...
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    09-17-2013, 11:10 AM
Sounds like Shalisha is one of those "save all the horses" kind of person who has no experience with the reality of horse ownership and how ridiculously expensive things can get when you have an unsound horse ;)

OP, I completely commend you for your consideration. My boy and I are constantly battling soundness issues and it takes a LOT of energy out of me(not to mention money) worrying about his comfort.
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    09-17-2013, 02:18 PM
This is why you need the hoof boots. The shoes hold the frog/digital cushion up off the ground. When you pull the shoes, suddenly you have pressure on areas that aren't used to it.
    09-17-2013, 03:55 PM
Green Broke
Quite honestly the OP is doing more than I would do. She is giving this horse a shot at being a pasture ornament if he can be pasture sound barefoot.

I would not do this. I would simply put the horse down if the horse cannot be ridden due to chronic Navicular disease. For me, as much as I love horses, they are large money to just keep around because of love or whatever. A horse had to be useful and sound and able to work and if they could not then either they were sold or put down. Horses are livestock.. they are not My Friend Flicka or Mr. Ed or the Black Stallion.

I commend the OP for giving this a go. I would not. Clearly this owner has more compassion than I would. I would NEVER call her "cruel."

OTOH many would call me cruel for NOT keeping a pasture ornament.
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