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post #31 of 43 Old 09-17-2013, 03:29 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks guys for the kind words. I know I am probably doing alot more then most would.

Just for the record. He can be ridden but the navicular is so bad why would I? I mean I have another sound riding horse that I unexpectedly got so I would love to give him the chance to be a horse instead of being worked into the ground like he has been his whole life.
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post #32 of 43 Old 09-17-2013, 03:50 PM
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I look at it like this, if your horse was in the wild, he wouldn't have anyone riding him, and he wouldn't have shoes on now would he.

Allowing an animal to exist in its natural state is not cruel.

At the same time doing what you can to make him more comfortable, there is nothing wrong with that either.

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post #33 of 43 Old 09-17-2013, 04:02 PM
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On one hand, I agree with Elana. For a horse that's relatively new to you (only had him a couple of months, right?) you are doing him a profound favor by letting him live off you for as long as possible.

Many people, myself included, would likely have him put down just because he hadn't earned his keep (and some would likely say that makes me cruel as well). On the other hand, if it was a horse that I had owned and ridden for years and absolutely loved, then I would do my utmost to give him the best and longest life I could.
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I look at it like this, if your horse was in the wild, he wouldn't have anyone riding him, and he wouldn't have shoes on now would he.
He'd have been long dead by now if he were out in the wild. Nature is not kind to her children who are at less than optimum health.

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Allowing an animal to exist in its natural state is not cruel.
A domestic horse's natural state is to be cared for by humans, so yes, it would be cruel to leave him out to suffer with no medical/farrier care. If that were the case, he'd be better off put down.

People need to stop waxing poetic about the grandeur of feral horses. The fact of the matter is that their lives are short, harsh and brutish, and in no way comparable to that of domestic horses. There's nothing grand about slowly starving to death during a hard winter, or being eaten by predators if they're young, injured or weak.
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On one hand, I agree with Elana. For a horse that's relatively new to you (only had him a couple of months, right?) you are doing him a profound favor by letting him live off you for as long as possible.

Many people, myself included, would likely have him put down just because he hadn't earned his keep (and some would likely say that makes me cruel as well). On the other hand, if it was a horse that I had owned and ridden for years and absolutely loved, then I would do my utmost to give him the best and longest life I could.
Think she's had this one longer then a few months your thinking of the haffie she just got.

I have a yard ornament but iv owned her 24 years and she gave me 20 years of great riding. So yeah she earned her yard onament status. Not sure if my gelding is never ridable again because of current issues. I might put him down next spring if he's not going to be usable.

Can't justify keeping two yard ornaments plus cost of keeping them isnt cheap. I don't board out so that helps but still can't justify two yard ornaments.
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He'd have been long dead by now if he were out in the wild. Nature is not kind to her children who are at less than optimum health.



A domestic horse's natural state is to be cared for by humans, so yes, it would be cruel to leave him out to suffer with no medical/farrier care. If that were the case, he'd be better off put down.

People need to stop waxing poetic about the grandeur of feral horses. The fact of the matter is that their lives are short, harsh and brutish, and in no way comparable to that of domestic horses. There's nothing grand about slowly starving to death during a hard winter, or being eaten by predators if they're young, injured or weak.
you're taking what I said out of context, I wasn't saying don't provide him with veterinary care, I was saying not putting shoes on him and not riding him and seeing how he does was not cruel.

I have actually been spending a good deal of time around wild horses here lately. Their lives are not all that bad, in fact they are some pretty amazing animals.

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^^You're right Spirit, I just re-read the OP and she said she's had him about a year. I'm thinking of the right horse, but it just seems like it's only been a couple of months. This last year has just vanished in a hurry LOL.

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you're taking what I said out of context, I wasn't saying don't provide him with veterinary care, I was saying not putting shoes on him and not riding him and seeing how he does was not cruel.

I have actually been spending a good deal of time around wild horses here lately. Their lives are not all that bad, in fact they are some pretty amazing animals.
And to this I would add if the animal is that messed up that it would die with out a ton of medical attention, the humane thing may just be to put it down.

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Yeah, I've had this guy a year in November.

I board and I have 3. The haffie, him, and my mini donk. It isn't easy but I try.
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Wow, 3?! And you board them?! That is hard. I have two that I board and I'm slowly losing all my sanity LOL
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