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    09-16-2012, 09:18 PM
  #1
Foal
Yay for bot eggs!

I recently found bot eggs on my horse's side near his stomach. I scraped them off with my fingernail and a shedding stone (Those black blocks). I got all of them off from what I can tell.
I've read that you should wait to worm the horse until after the first frost. Should I wait that long considering it still only is the middle of September? Or should I just worm him now to prevent anything?
     
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    09-17-2012, 12:54 AM
  #2
Weanling
I think the best route would be to call up your vet and get his/her suggestions for a deworming protocol based on your horse's individual and specific needs.
     
    09-17-2012, 04:41 PM
  #3
Yearling
Yup, make a quick call to the vet and see what they say :)
     
    09-17-2012, 11:08 PM
  #4
Foal
When was the last time you dewormed your horse?
     
    09-18-2012, 05:34 AM
  #5
Foal
I use a bot fly knife and don't let it go anywhere near anything near the horses mouth or it will get worms!!!
     
    09-18-2012, 07:05 AM
  #6
Trained
If you worm correctly, you shouldn't have any problems.
I'd get an egg count done just to be on the safe side though.
     
    09-18-2012, 04:24 PM
  #7
Showing
Deworming after frost was done because that when the old dewormers were most effective. The new ones, the past 15 years or so get them at all stages, which is better because the buggers have quite a path of destruction. The eggs hatch in the mouth, down into the lungs, cough, swallowed then migrate thro the stomch wall taking a seperate route to the colon. When we dewormed for bots after frost the horse often had a distinctive cough, often just a single cough, and perhaps 2 or 3 a day. I used to recognize it as a Bot Cough as it's a dry cough.
     
    09-18-2012, 06:05 PM
  #8
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
Deworming after frost was done because that when the old dewormers were most effective. The new ones, the past 15 years or so get them at all stages, which is better because the buggers have quite a path of destruction. The eggs hatch in the mouth, down into the lungs, cough, swallowed then migrate thro the stomch wall taking a seperate route to the colon. When we dewormed for bots after frost the horse often had a distinctive cough, often just a single cough, and perhaps 2 or 3 a day. I used to recognize it as a Bot Cough as it's a dry cough.
Hmm. This is making me think I had better deworm again. I had never heard of the "bot cough" but one of my horses DOES have an occasional dry cough (which I thought was just dust in the hay). And I saw bot eggs on him a couple weeks ago, which I did my best to scrape off, but it is very possible to miss a few as they are so tiny.

I last dewormed w/ivermectin back in mid July. Ivermectin is pretty well the best thing to get bots, right? I hate to give the same dewormer class twice in a row, but that seems like a good idea right now doesn't it?

How long does it take for bots to go from eggs to causing the horse to cough?
     
    09-18-2012, 09:58 PM
  #9
Trained
I never heard of the bot cough, sorry..
The botfly lays eggs on the horse's legs, shoulder, mane, everywhere the horse can reach or another horse, when they groom each other. They itch, so the horse bites/licks at them. Saliva makes them hatch and they attach in the mucous membrane of the mouth. They stay there for about a week, then being swallowed and attach themselves on the stomach lining, where they stay and grow until spring, emerging with the poop, bury themselves in the ground and eventually become bot flies.
The mouth phase can make a sensitive horse go off feed for a day or two.

Best prevention is taking the eggs off daily with a bot knife or this grooming stone. Or wash them with warm water, they hatch outside the horse and can't do any damage.

Deworming after the first frost is recommended because the frost has hopefully killed the adult flies and you get the larvae in one time deworming with Ivermectine.
     
    09-21-2012, 01:31 PM
  #10
Foal
Thanks guys(:
The egg count was low and the vet said I should just keep him on his normal worming schedule.
     

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