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    07-16-2010, 10:47 PM
  #1
Foal
Talking Your Positions on SmartPak?

I'm sure many of you have heard of SmartPak, and I just want to see if anyone agrees with me that it is the BEST COMPANY EVER. It makes supplement feeding so much easier than it normally is!

I'm sorry, I just had to get that out.

     
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    07-16-2010, 10:55 PM
  #2
Trained
I really like SmartPak, I have to say that I wish I came up with the packaging idea myself....I'd be a millionaire :P

They are very convenient, I like that their Consultants are very patient, kind and great at listening and giving advice. I like that they don't push their products on you and are willing to point you in the right direction.

Nelson gets about 6 suppliments and I love that I can just pull out one of my packs, open it up and dump it into Nelson's feed bucket. Very convenient and I love the fact that not one horse at my barn, has access to them. My horse gets exactly what he needs, and no one else can sneak into my products and use it on their horses.

I love that I started with SmartPak and I know I will always continue with SmarkPak.
     
    07-16-2010, 11:08 PM
  #3
Foal
If anyone EVER asks me what supplements I suggest, I will always suggest they use SmartPak. ALWAYS. XD
     
    07-16-2010, 11:18 PM
  #4
Banned
I've never used SmartPak, but I've heard a ton of good things about them.
     
    07-17-2010, 09:57 AM
  #5
Yearling
I think they are feeding on horse-owner's worries. With a balanced diet already in place, there is minimal need for supplements. They should be used for specific issues but aren't necessary for every horse. They are pushing many products with little to no scientific evidence behind them just like all the millions of other supplement companies that are out there making money off the insecurities/worries of people world-wide. The supplement market doesn't have the outlay to prove efficacy or safety of products yet they sell tons at inflated prices and tell you that you have to use their products every day.

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    07-17-2010, 11:00 AM
  #6
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Ryle    
I think they are feeding on horse-owner's worries. With a balanced diet already in place, there is minimal need for supplements. They should be used for specific issues but aren't necessary for every horse. They are pushing many products with little to no scientific evidence behind them just like all the millions of other supplement companies that are out there making money off the insecurities/worries of people world-wide. The supplement market doesn't have the outlay to prove efficacy or safety of products yet they sell tons at inflated prices and tell you that you have to use their products every day.

The Horse | Survey Finds Eventers Nutritionally Sound, but Oversupplemented
The Horse | Taking Stock: A Close Look at Supplement Research
The Horse | Cutting Costs: Ditch Supplements That Are Unnecessary
The Horse | Filling a Need? (Supplements)
I have to agree with that to some degree; some degree because I am not 100% dependent on the scientific world for answers. Had I listened to my vet three years ago when my senior horse was formally diagnosed as insulin resistant, yet had never been laminitic, I may have caused more harm than good by putting that horse Pergolide as the vet wanted to do.

I took my own course of strict diet and herbs. He is coming 23, still the alpha-dominant in the herd, acts like he's 10 and that same vet can't believe how healthy he is --- including his rock crusher barefoot hooves that hit a lick across the gravel (at liberty) without flicking an ear.

I sincerely doubt the purity of some of the SmartPak products and will not buy them.

I now have two insulin resistant horses and I need solid proof that what I am giving them is either corn/oat/soy free or is pharmaceutical grade.

I can see how folks in boarding situations can become easily enamoured with something like Smartpak, however, just because it's the "most popular supplement flavor" of the decade doesn't make them right.

I privileged and thankful to have my horses on my own property so I custom mix what they need according to:

1. What a particular horse's issues are.
2. My hay test.
3. Soil test.
4. Lots of research on legitimate web sites.
5. Vet's thoughts.

I live in the Tennessee Valley, a/k/a "allergy purgatory" for humans and animals alike. My horses and one dog have lived with me in four states and I have never had skin/pollen/runny-sneezy nose problems with anyone until we moved here.

Point-being, taking care of them here doesn't even resemble how I cared for them in other states we lived in, so I give them what they currently need from companies I know create a pure product as opposed to supplements that are good mostly because they are so convenient, in turn, making them extremely popular.

The old phrase "if everyone else jumped off the bridge, I suppose you would too" applies with SmartPak. Don't use it just because someone else is, too many horses are getting things they don't need for that reason
     
    07-17-2010, 11:23 AM
  #7
Showing
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Originally Posted by Ryle    
I think they are feeding on horse-owner's worries.
You took words from my mouth, Ryle!

While I like SmartPack and think they have terrific service and good about suggestions and choices, their catalog scares me to death every time. Per it you have to fill up the horse with everything possible since it's born: joint supplements, hoof supplements, digestive help, and whatever else you can think off. That's somewhat scary because not everyone does own research before stuffing the horse with amount of supplements (which may not be even needed in 1st place).
     
    07-17-2010, 02:34 PM
  #8
Yearling
I don't think supplements are bad :) Sure, people can over do it and waste their money but I think preventative care and some supplements are a great idea.

I want my horse to live longer than a horse in the wild / natural state and be healthier and active for longer. I'm not satisfied with him getting by on hay/grass. Not saying that's bad if anyone does it that way and maybe you disagree with me (don't want to argue) but that's my general philosophy.

I think the SmartPak company is wonderful! Very prompt and friendly service! I've never used the packs themselves yet but I've ordered things from them and have been very satisfied! I may do it in the future.
     
    07-17-2010, 02:52 PM
  #9
Yearling
We have a thoroughbred that couldn't live without OneAc for his anhydrosis. He also gets a hoof supplement because he has/had typical thoroughbred hooves. Smartpak has been wonderful!
Not everyone is fortunate enough to have their horses on their own land. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have perfectly healthy horses. Don't blame Smartpak because some people over supplement their horses. Lots of people are over medicated, but we don't blame Walmart!
     
    07-17-2010, 07:18 PM
  #10
Yearling
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Originally Posted by walkinthewalk    
because I am not 100% dependent on the scientific world for answers. Had I listened to my vet three years ago when my senior horse was formally diagnosed as insulin resistant, yet had never been laminitic, I may have caused more harm than good by putting that horse Pergolide as the vet wanted to do.
That was vet that just likely didn't have the newest information available or mis-remembered. Peroglide hasn't been recommended for horses with IR unless it is to be used short term in horses who are morbidly obese and need to get the weight off quickly.
     

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