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    08-20-2010, 12:16 PM
If possible, fencing off an area to seperate her from the other horses and simply offering grass hay around the clock would be a good place to start. Also, feeding it in a trough or something helps prevent waste- I use an old leaky water trough, which works great and only cost me $5. (yay craigslist. . .) You may find that just by allowing her more access to hay, some issues will resolve.
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    08-20-2010, 12:37 PM
Green Broke
Alwaysbehind, sorry, your right about the name of the feed. My bad. I know she is getting enough hay because I have sat and watched them eat. Takes them about 2 hrs, maybe less in between rests to eat most of it. Especially the more dominant mares. Our hay isnt the best quality anyway. Mainly grass and I think it sat too long before it was cut. So that was my main reason to start her on grain for the nutrients lacking in the hay. But to put more weight on her that's why I asked about the beet pulp. And don't ask me the size of my scoop lol lol,. Its plastic and its a scoop,. :)???!! Quart? Speed Racer? Does your scoop say on it the size? You know what I will do, I will take a measuring cup (1 cup) and see how many cups fill it to the top and let you know that. Sound ok? :) Yeah, I didnt soak it this morning and she chewed it fine. I will experiment the soaking of it next. Would you upload a pic of your arab? How many hands is he and his weight. I'm such a freak, sorry. Thank you for your advice guys, I think I am finally getting thru to my in law about the reasons for the way I feed. She doesnt think I do it right but I always research before I do something. If it isnt going to kill my horse but possibly help her, why not try? Right?
    08-20-2010, 12:42 PM
Green Broke
Payette, thank you for your advice. Unfortunatley, I board her and can't seperate the horses. That's why I throw alot of hay, and stand and wait til she finishes her grain. I wish I could do what you say, actually I wish I could have her out on pasture like a horse should be but I am stuck and can only do my best for my horse on someone elses property. Sucks, but gotta do it.
    08-20-2010, 12:43 PM
SR, are your measurement amounts of your beet pulp before or after you soak it?

I give my mare one cup of pellets (before soaking) which grow into about 1 1/2 quarts of stuff after soaked.

Note - my mare does not need weight. I feed her beet pulp in the winter because she is not a good hay eater or drinker so the beet pulp is there to add fiber and water. In the summer she is on pasture so the beet pulp is not fed.
    08-20-2010, 12:45 PM
Mbender, are you separating her to feed her? I have to separate my three or the oldster won't get enough of his, and will get far too much of the TB's!

They get 'communal' hay, but put out in different piles. My rule of thumb is one more pile of hay than there are horses. Keeps them from guarding one big pile and not letting the others eat.

Yes, the measurement should be on the scoop somewhere.

I don't have any pictures of Mack, but he's about 14.2 h and around 950 lbs. He's got plenty of meat on those old bones.
    08-20-2010, 04:25 PM
Green Broke
Most feed scoops are 3qt, at least in all the feed stores around here. I have a 1 qt feed scoop and it is SMALL. I use it for adding a little oats to a couple of horses who need more energy.

Take a scoop of your feed home and weigh it. If you don't have a kitchen or postal scale, take the feed (in a baggie) to the grocery store and weigh it on a produce scale. If your scoop holds 3 lbs of feed, she would need 2-3 scoops a day. You should not feed more than 5 lbs of feed (total) per-feeding.

If they clean up their hay in 2 hours, then that's not enough hay. You want a thin horse on 3-4% of their body weight in hay every day. That's about 30-40 lbs of hay for a 1,000 lb horse. If your bales are moderately heavy grass bales (50-60 lbs), then you need 1/2 to 2/3rds of a bale per-horse every day.
    08-20-2010, 04:55 PM
Green Broke
Wow, that's alot of hay. Ok, so I used a cup to see how many it took to fill my scoop. It took 8cups. On the back of the scoop is a number. 2. Is that how many quarts it is. How many cups in a quart? I'll figure that out. We do the same as you do. One extra pile. And we seperate the piles out.

"If your bales are moderately heavy grass bales (50-60 lbs), then you need 1/2 to 2/3rds of a bale per-horse every day."

Per day or per feeding? If its per feeding, we probably throw between 21/2 - 3 flakes per horse. Its alot.
    08-20-2010, 05:04 PM
The weight of the flake is more important than the number of flakes. One flake might only weigh 5 pounds, depending on the density of the hay. Sometimes as a horse gets older, they do require more feed to keep the same amount of weight on. I personally would get some alfalfa pellets to feed her too. I swear by alfalfa, it keeps all our horses slick and healthy.
    08-20-2010, 05:05 PM
4 cups in a quart.
    08-21-2010, 12:16 AM
Green Broke
1/2 to 2/3rd of a grass bale per day. That's if you have bales that are 55-65 lbs, which are light to moderate in weight. The flake size depends on the baler used when the hay was being baled.

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