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        10-02-2013, 07:13 PM
      #21
    Yearling
    I was in the same situation as you last summer. I want to go into medicine and I am also an EMT, so I wanted to do something with that certification - anything else would be wasting both the money for the cert and time I spent getting it. And I very quickly learned getting ANY kind of EMT job with no experience is nearly impossible. I told myself that if summer came (when I could work) and I was not employed I would start applying to anywhere and everywhere, including crap jobs like fast food.

    I put in HUNDREDS of applications. I'm not kidding. Hundreds of them. And FINALLY I got a call back from a horse racetrack needing EMTs (the horse bit was entirely coincidental) and got a job. Most people are not as lucky as me, because horse jobs aren't exactly common - at least not remotely well paying ones (whereas EMT jobs are more abundant, but harder to get).

    I know you have a lot going on, but it sounds to me like it's going to be an either-or situation. If you don't have the time to work a fast food job you should cut back on some of the other things you do. I have quite a few hobbies and I have unfortunately had to quite a few of them to be able to go to college, manage the horses, work, maintain grades, etc. I'm glad you're being mature about the situation (and all of our hope-dashing).

    Like you said, you need the money if you want to keep going. But you'll have to figure out how to fit a job in your schedule in addition to the rest of it. None of us want to give up our favorite things to work, but unfortunately that's the crappy reality of it. And while you might look at a non-horse related job as a 'waste of time' it's really a starting stepping stone to GET to that job. You'll be hard pressed to find a job where you need experience without having any (again, this coming from experience).

    Like you said, you have to start somewhere. Good luck
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        10-02-2013, 07:47 PM
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    Another thing to consider... I love horses and I've worked with them for 10 years. Like had a job working with them. Every saturday I reluctantly roll out of bed to teach lessons. I really do love horses but when horses are a job its not fun going to the barn anymore. I really want horses to stay fun!! To me they are an important outlet, which I no longer have. I want to want to go outside and work with my horses, not have to get up and go outside.
    I think this is an important thing that many young horse-ambitious folks don't realize. I did the working at the barn thing when I was in high school and loved it, but the pay was not best and the hours were limited even during the summer when I was free. I've seen what happens to horse people when they are overworked, and it is saddening. My old trainer is a prime example of what was mentioned- she started working with horses after graduating college in her 20s, worked at the barn doing the morning feeding/cleaning/turnout/chores and did training/lessons and massage therapy on the side. Around the time I graduated high school she began to grow weary of the life, didn't want to ride anymore, and had to turn around and find a new career in her late 40s.

    Even worse is my current barn manager. She has been managing our barn since the beginning of time as far as I can tell, and within the past year had to get another barn job to help pay her bills. She used to be the kind of lady that loved mucking out stalls in anticipation of her daily rides, but now she hates the job. Because she has to work at both barns she never gets time to ride. She really wants to work with her horses, but even if she does finish her work early she wants to just sit and relax for a little while. I've seen her on a horse once since I started boarding here in May (and that's only because I begged her to ride with me :P) but before she got her new job she used to ride all afternoon. Now she needs the extra barn job to pay for her life and horses (which she keeps for just the price of feed), but she can't ride the horses because of the job. She's only about 50, so I don't know how long she will be able to keep it up or what she will do when she has had enough and wants to move on.

    I'm not trying to be discouraging, but you need to be aware of how your feelings may change as you get older. You may love your horses and your time spent with them just as much as ever, but a low-paying career with them may grow very old over the next 40 years or so. If you can take a barn job somewhere, then go for it! But be prepared to be making about minimum wage. I'd suggest having a horse career on the side of something that can actually support a house, family if you choose, reasonably nice truck and trailer, shows, and your horses of course. Or, if you do go into horses, set yourself up for a life after horses. You may very well work with them right up until you die, but you don't want to have to make a difficult and trying career move when you are 40!!
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        10-02-2013, 10:53 PM
      #23
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Palomine    
    The problem is...unless you can do grooming at show barns? Which means traveling with the show horses? You will be making what they pay...not what you want them to pay.

    If you can ride adequately well, nothing fancy but if you don't mind get up on the young horses? You MIGHT make more...might not too.

    And sadly? The illegals have many of the jobs with horses Americans used to have. When we were making, back in 70/80's, 30 dollars a day at a show, with motel room and meal money....(min wage was maybe 2 dollars???) the Mexicans were doing it for 10...period. NO motel, NO food money...just 10 dollars every day.

    You might, depending on where you lived and if you can find enough horse people close, with just one or two horses each, go muck out paddocks and remove that, in addition to stall? Clean troughs, clean tack or whatever.

    But with obummercare hitting hard...those folks that have horses may be finding out that they will not any longer be able to afford them. Or have to cut back on what they do with them.

    Get whatever job you have to....and good luck.


    And FYI. Leaving your boots any place that mice could get at them was foolish. Take better care of your things, it is not that hard to clean them, polish them and keep them up.

    Yeah, I had to learn that the hard way. It was foolish.
         
        10-02-2013, 11:06 PM
      #24
    Weanling
    Guys, I really, really appreciate all of your input. I am not discouraged and I do not consider this hope-dashing. :) I needed to hear (read) all of this. It has humbled me quite a bit. I still have no doubt that I will be able achieve my goals. Then again, I am stubborn, so it's not like I'm about to give up on them. I am in the process of turning dreams into reality. Dreams, goals, plans, actions, reality. That's how it goes for me.

    I like to think I am being mature about this. But only time will tell for sure whether I really am or not.

    I am starting to like this art idea more and more....I could pick up crocheting again. I made a bunch of pointy hats and sold two of them to classmates for $20. One of them never paid me. >:( But the other paid me in advance. Actually, the second only had fifteen, but I took it anyway and didn't ask for the other five.

    So yeah. If I make $20 a hat, and it only takes about two hours to make (if I go straight through. 2 days if it is spread out, but still better than nothing), that's pretty good. And I can just sit on my butt and watch a movie or something. :)

    Gosh. This is all so overwhelming. But I can do this.

    I got this, guys. :) Thank you all so much!
         
        10-02-2013, 11:12 PM
      #25
    Yearling
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    Originally Posted by Ripplewind    
    Guys, I really, really appreciate all of your input. I am not discouraged and I do not consider this hope-dashing. :) I needed to hear (read) all of this. It has humbled me quite a bit. I still have no doubt that I will be able achieve my goals. Then again, I am stubborn, so it's not like I'm about to give up on them. I am in the process of turning dreams into reality. Dreams, goals, plans, actions, reality. That's how it goes for me.

    I like to think I am being mature about this. But only time will tell for sure whether I really am or not.

    I am starting to like this art idea more and more....I could pick up crocheting again. I made a bunch of pointy hats and sold two of them to classmates for $20. One of them never paid me. >:( But the other paid me in advance. Actually, the second only had fifteen, but I took it anyway and didn't ask for the other five.

    So yeah. If I make $20 a hat, and it only takes about two hours to make (if I go straight through. 2 days if it is spread out, but still better than nothing), that's pretty good. And I can just sit on my butt and watch a movie or something. :)

    Gosh. This is all so overwhelming. But I can do this.

    I got this, guys. :) Thank you all so much!
    Keep in mind you can't put "crocheting hats" on a resume. You CAN put "worked at McDonald's" in your work experience and it will get you much farther in life having actual job experience.
         
        10-02-2013, 11:34 PM
      #26
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    Originally Posted by Ripplewind    
    Yeah, I had to learn that the hard way. It was foolish.
    I think it's unreasonable for someone to beat you up too badly for that one. Yeah it's a dumb move, but we've all done something like that. When I was a kid I took off my paddock boots in the garage one day and then my parents put our then poorly behaved dog in the garage when they left the house. Got back and instantly realized my mistake. Stuff like that happens. One mistake like that doesn't reflect poorly on your overall sense of responsibility- it's an accumulation of such mistakes that does ;)

    Agreed with the above though- while making hats and the like can definitely provide a bit of extra cash, it's not something that future careers and opportunities can build upon. Even then, you need to make sure you take into account the time you spend making the hat, the materials necessary, etc....
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        10-03-2013, 02:05 AM
      #27
    Weanling
    I wouldn't knock on doors after they ignore your letters. If someone isn't hiring, they either don't need anyone or can't afford anyone.
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        10-03-2013, 08:26 AM
      #28
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    Originally Posted by Shoebox    
    Keep in mind you can't put "crocheting hats" on a resume. You CAN put "worked at McDonald's" in your work experience and it will get you much farther in life having actual job experience.

    She can, however, put "ran a small business selling handmade craft items" and outline her successes, lessons learned about customer service, collecting on money owed, inventory control, and record keeping.

    <<< Pretty good at resumes.
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        10-03-2013, 09:07 AM
      #29
    Started
    I did just want to throw in there that the wage levels can depend on exactly what you want to do, and what sphere you are working in. Granted, any experiences in the last number of years has been only in Ireland and I have been away from North America for far too long to offer any input.

    Years ago I was a "working student" in Canada at a large warmblood farm. In my 6/7 months there I had my rent/bills paid and received the grand total of $200.

    I then moved to Ireland and started a job where I received €120 p/week for a 6 day week. Then I got into racing, and over here the staff working for licenced trainers have strict regulations regarding pay, with an association overseeing that staff are treated/paid well. These regulations are age dependent, and underage kids are paid significantly less than experiences adults. Obviously there is discretion regarding increases of wages but those are entirely up to the employer.

    I think you are obviously very clever, and looking forward from your first post to the more recent ones shows that you are well able to take in advice and change your way of thinking - those traits will stand to you in the job force. Well done.
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        10-03-2013, 06:05 PM
      #30
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Shoebox    
    Keep in mind you can't put "crocheting hats" on a resume. You CAN put "worked at McDonald's" in your work experience and it will get you much farther in life having actual job experience.
    Haha, I know! However, it is something that can give me the extra cash I need to replace my boots so that my parents don't have to worry about paying for me.
         

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