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    01-26-2012, 01:25 AM
  #21
Weanling
CCH: I am well aware and had absolutely no problem with the hours, it was everything else combined with no breaks that I had the problem with. I had no problem with my duties as trainers assistant, it was the actual training going on that was the problem. It hasnt soured me on the industry in the least, he's just a bad egg. However it has made me realize that I don't want to work in the horse training industry, it's much to personal. Which is why I'm going towards something more like equine nutrition.
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    01-26-2012, 01:26 AM
  #22
Yearling
Report the person before somebody else dose and your name will be with that forever this happen to a person I know and now I would not hire him because he did nothing to help the horses at the farm he worked
     
    01-26-2012, 04:05 PM
  #23
Banned
Your best bet would be if you know the owners of any of the horses in training (and know for a fact that they would not appreciate his "techniques"). Contact them and have them check it out. If their horse is at all injuried, or if his methods are not living up to their expectations, they can be the ones to file a suit against him or report him for cruelty--that way, it's not coming from a disgruntled former employee. I totally get not wanting to stick your neck out....I've been there. So you have to be careful and make sure that there actually is a clear, documented, provable case against him, so as not to fall into a libel/slander trap. I might even anonymously contact the association and explain what is going on without naming names. See if they will take the report seriously--I sure hope they will.
     
    01-26-2012, 04:59 PM
  #24
Trained
OP You obviously learned a lot from your experience it just wasn't what you had hoped it would be.
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    01-26-2012, 05:39 PM
  #25
Weanling
The majority of the horses are owned by one owner, who has invested hundreds of thousands if not millions in these horses. He has about 4 or 5 privately owned horses in training. While I was there one of the owners made a visit. He knowingly rode this horse very hard before hand, bloodied him up and then tied him in his stall before he eventually cleaned him up for presentation. The woman didn't say a word about how obvious the makeup on the horse was, or the hole in his face caused by the tie down. I was amazed. She went on and on about how much she loved him, but completely ignored the obvious signs of it being covered up.

Eta when I say tied I mean tied his head between his legs, which happened often with this particular horse. For whatever warped reason he seemed to think that doing such things would punish the horse, and teach him to respect the bit. In all reality I'm sure it did dead opposite.
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    01-26-2012, 05:47 PM
  #26
Green Broke
I agree with CCH...when first starting out..it sucks...it is your life. And the thing is, is that there is 100 other people who want your spot. I have worked for some crappy trainers and I feel for you, because it sucks that your there for 16 hrs dealing with it...its not 8hrs, go home and forget about it. At shows I was lucky to get any sleep at all. But you have to stick it out and work your way up the food chain. It does get better and finally you will get to ride with someone that will teach you and is a real good trainer.

That sucks you had to see the crappy side of training, people who don't know what to do when problems arise just get mad at the horse and punish. And that is what you witnessed. He can't teach you anything when he doesn't even know what to do.

Good luck with what you decide to do!
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    01-26-2012, 05:58 PM
  #27
Weanling
Um, might I say this guy should be tied up for life with his head between his knees with barbed wire across his face? I'm in. Oh, and let's put him on a treadmill for hours before hand.
     
    01-27-2012, 11:53 AM
  #28
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Originally Posted by TKButtermilk    

First things first, I quit. I will explain everything as follows!

Before I took this job I first visited and then worked a full 12 hour day to be sure it was what I wanted as I was moving on site and quitting my other job for it. The job was supposed to be $400 a week, live on site, board for one horse and rent included, 6 days a week with Sundays off hat I didnt realize when I took the job was that it was a minimum of 12 hours every day, with barely even a lunch break. Basically I was working constantly and when it was time for lunch he would hand me his horse and go inside to eat. I would have to care of that horse and whatever other horses that had been tied in their stalls drying before I got to go in and eat, and then I would have to beat him out there. This was the only break I got. What I also didnt know was that if we finished up working at 6 I would still have to stay on site to un tie the horses that were drying and switch out their blankets, and then turn off the lights at 9:30. I previously lived an hour and a half away and I thought if I was willing to suck it up and drive I would be able to leave after I was off and then come back in time to start at 6. Not possible with turning the lights off at 9:30. If we finished at 6, I would be done with putting the horse up by 6:15 but would need to un tie whoever else a bit later, even if someone wanted to drive the hour and a half to meet me I wouldnt have any time before being back to get the lights. Christmas Eve I didnt get out of their till 7:30pmven though he knew I needed to drive an hour and a half to see my family. Mind you HE got to walk the whole 5 feet into his house and party it up immediaty while I handled the last horses. Beautiful.

When I took the job I intended to bring my dog and my horse with me, I quickly realized I would have zero time for my mare and why have her sit in a stall all day or a turn out when she can be at home, in a pasture with daily care and exercise from my family. Not to mention some snotty nosed thing was going around with the horses and I refuse to give it to my mare, so no horsey. I didnt bring my dog either because I quickly realized that the trainer would think he was in the way (hes a velcro puppy, very well behaved and horse savvy) and my dog was going to get hurt by his foot connecting to his face, that's how this guy was.


This is not as uncommon as you may think. There are a lot of positions like this and you may or may not work your way up through the ranks. There are, however, horse jobs that do understand you may have a life outside of the barn. They are hard to find, but they are out there. Good luck to you!
     
    01-27-2012, 12:00 PM
  #29
Weanling
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Originally Posted by wetrain17    
This is not as uncommon as you may think. There are a lot of positions like this and you may or may not work your way up through the ranks. There are, however, horse jobs that do understand you may have a life outside of the barn. They are hard to find, but they are out there. Good luck to you!
Agreed, I just was not committed enough for a job like that. I realized right away that I don't want to work in the training side of things, it's not for me.
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    01-27-2012, 12:07 PM
  #30
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^^^ It takes a certain kind of person to work that type of job. I am not one of those people; I know this from experience. I was very lucky to find a barn manager position that was 5 days a week, benefits (VERY IMPORTANT, but harder to find), paid vacation, and rotated holidays, and free room and board.
     

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