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post #31 of 48 Old 01-28-2012, 10:47 AM
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This story is very common in training barns. It becomes paid slavery.
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post #32 of 48 Old 01-28-2012, 02:14 PM
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This story is very common in training barns. It becomes paid slavery.
Yep it is hard work, but no one is forced to do it.
A trainer can figure out who wants to be there bad enough and who has a good work ethic. It weeds out the ones that aren't really looking to put in the time. Some places do take advantage of that drive of young people to want to make it and treat their assistants/lopers like crap. I am by no means saying that the OP is lazy or didn't want it bad enough, there were other circumstances causing her to leave which is very unfortunate. I hope she doesn't give up.

Trainers like she worked for are not good trainers if they have to resort to "gimmicks" to make up for a lack knowledge. I am sure it won't be long before his horses will be going downhill and so will his clientele.

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The thing that got me was not the hours worked, she knew that was all a part of it, but the way that the horse's were handled.

I am not a fan of riding horses that are barely 2, but I know it's the industry standard for futurities. The thing is, there are ways to do it with as little damage to the horse as possible. Hell, my Dad did it for years and years and most of the horses he showed in futurities went on to have very long and successful riding careers with no lameness issues. BUT, it was a very rare thing to see him get even slightly harsh with a horse that young, let alone bloodying them up just to get a fast turn or a hard stop.

OP, I am really sorry that you ended up in that position. It must have been terrible. If it was me, I would really look into ways to report him anonymously. I understand that most people would be quick to scream "OMG, report it to anyone and everyone who will listen!!!" and that is my first reaction too, but at the same time, I understand how the industry works and doing something like that publicly can absolutely ruin your chances of ever getting a good job with anyone because you will always be labeled a "tattletale".

I hope it all works out for you and I am glad you were able to find another job.

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post #34 of 48 Old 01-28-2012, 02:39 PM
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Maybe I'm just stubborn and ignorant but I surely wouldn't work to keep this guys good name. If I were in the OP's situation I would go ahead and name him and if anyone asked I'd tell them I didn't want to watch the idiot bloody horse for 14 hour a day. You might get labeled a tattletale or you might catch the attention of someone that doesn't agree with that kind of crap as well. Take this for what it's worth coming from an out-of-work cowboy.
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I am not a fan of riding horses that are barely 2, but I know it's the industry standard for futurities. The thing is, there are ways to do it with as little damage to the horse as possible. Hell, my Dad did it for years and years and most of the horses he showed in futurities went on to have very long and successful riding careers with no lameness issues. BUT, it was a very rare thing to see him get even slightly harsh with a horse that young, let alone bloodying them up just to get a fast turn or a hard stop.
I totally agree there are ways to do it with out damaging a young horse physically and mentally. The last guy I worked for had a barn full of futurity colts, I did the colt starting and I didn't ride them very long maybe 15 minutes as soon as that colt made some improvement, just the slightest, I got off. That is all it takes. If he improves just a little bit everyday your making progress. There is no reason to drill and drill and drill a horse into the ground or fight with him and make him bloody. Not only did the futurity colts get rode that way but the aged horses as well, they all loved their job.

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Most every field has jerks that take advantage of people. Working someone else 12 hours a day is stupid. Working for someone 12 hours a day is unnecessary. There is nothing to be learned from this so called trainer except for that he is a jerk.

To the OP: you learned a lot. I am sorry that the lesson sucked.
I hope you find a real job.

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post #37 of 48 Old 02-21-2012, 01:37 PM
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post #38 of 48 Old 02-22-2012, 11:54 AM
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Celeste, many fields have people that are routinely expected to work 12-16 hrs a day, nurses, doctors, firefighters, etc. training/show/breeding farms fall into that category as well....you are NOT going to find a 9-5 job there. That does not make it "stupid" or "unnecessary", it just is what it is.
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post #39 of 48 Old 02-22-2012, 12:07 PM
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Maybe I'm just stubborn and ignorant but I surely wouldn't work to keep this guys good name. If I were in the OP's situation I would go ahead and name him
I would go to the owner of the facility. The foundation that this trainer is trying to build on is his/hers.
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Nurses, doctors, etc. work 12 hour shifts; however, they work 3 of them a week and they are very well paid.

You are right though, it is what it is. You either work a job or you don't. We each have to decide what we will and will not do in this world.

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