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post #11 of 62 Old 01-30-2013, 11:30 PM Thread Starter
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The point of a site visit/investigation/welfare check IS to get proof (or to show the lack of proof) of any reported concerns. The report does not require proof.
SO does anything get done to the person who complained, I dont want them stalking us or anything.
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post #12 of 62 Old 01-30-2013, 11:34 PM Thread Starter
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You can report "several horses wearing blindfolds" to the SPCA...

All that happens is they come out, see that they are healthy, cared for (and wearing FLY MASKS in my case) and close the complaint.
what seriously blind folds oh god Ive heard it all now
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post #13 of 62 Old 01-30-2013, 11:37 PM
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People can report what ever they like. SPCA coming out and taking pics may be the last you hear of them. They just need to document that they were there, and as it sounds, everything was Okee dokee. If horses in the rain is illegal, I'm a felon!
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I'm right with you having horses out in the elements. We are such bad owners!
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post #14 of 62 Old 01-30-2013, 11:39 PM
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SO does anything get done to the person who complained, I dont want them stalking us or anything.
I would guess that most complaints are done anonymously. Unless they can prove someone is making unwarranted claims and making false reports, not much can be done.
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I would guess that most complaints are done anonymously. Unless they can prove someone is making unwarranted claims and making false reports, not much can be done.
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okay thanks I feel a bit better im still a bit freaked out someone was creepin on us like that.
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post #16 of 62 Old 01-31-2013, 12:14 AM
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I dont know where to start, Ive been at work from 11 to 9 and come home to Chaos. Im sorry if some of this doesnt make sense I am very upset and shacking.

A little background on our barn. We rent a 7 stall 2 run in barn and have 7 horses 2 ponies on 13 acre. All are chubby and healthy I keep all vet records and have plenty of hay. Most are rescues and are only ridden lightly.
There is a house on the property that is rented by someone else. I can take videos to prove all of this of course :)

SO the SPCA apparently got a phone call and some photos of our horses out side in the rain from yesterday. All my horses have blankets on and we have a huge run in on the barn and a small run in plus seven stalls. The front field looks gross of course since it has been raining and they run around a lot. That field only has trees and no run in but they go inside at night.
Apparently the SPCA just came on the property and started looking around. The guy who rents the house came out to talk to her and she said she needed to speak to the owners and was he gave her our number.
The older woman living in the house (bless her soul I wish she was my grammy ) called us up right away upset and told us what happened, she is home all the time and said the day before there was a black SUV taking pictures of the horses. So now I dont know what to do. Was the SPCA aloud to just go on the property without the owner consent and look around? I wont know until Friday apparently what they want but im so upset about the whole thing. What should I do I feel like im getting so defense but I cant help it these are my pride and joy.

Where do I stand or what should I do? Has anyone ever dealt with this before.

I doubt they can legally come onto your property without a search warrant. And reasonable suspicion is only allowed for police not animal control.
My horses are outside in the weather almost constantly in snow temps to and below 0 even tho barn door is open with their stalls wide open. I gave up putting blankets on them because they shred them,
It is hopefully nothing serious.
They took pictures and verified horses were fine and that will no doubt be last of it. Nothing wrong with horses in the weather.
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post #17 of 62 Old 01-31-2013, 12:20 AM Thread Starter
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I doubt they can legally come onto your property without a search warrant. And reasonable suspicion is only allowed for police not animal control.
My horses are outside in the weather almost constantly in snow temps to and below 0. I gave up putting blankets on them because they shred them,
It is hopefully nothing serious.
They need to do their jobs and crack down on the people who have bags of bones hobbling around on their property and leave people who take care of their horses alone.
I couldnt agree more. Ive tried searching for info on legally if she was aloud on the property considering its private. I have no problem getting checked up on but I would have liked to be there seeing as she could have been bit or kicked.
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post #18 of 62 Old 01-31-2013, 12:28 AM
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I couldnt agree more. Ive tried searching for info on legally if she was aloud on the property considering its private. I have no problem getting checked up on but I would have liked to be there seeing as she could have been bit or kicked.

That is very true. Course that is their own risk since they are technically trespassing going in with animals without search warrant, It is one thing to take pictures but to enter barn or pasture they need your consent or a warrant.

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Wow..sounds like what happened to us last year when I was at my previous barn. Except, AC and RSPCA have no right to come onto private property without permission from the owners from what I've been told.

I'd get that looked up and see if you can charge for trespassing (I don't care what they're job is, my property is my property).

Are you by chance in western pa? I wouldn't put it past a few boarders I know that would call on something so stupid because they genuinely feel that they should be the only owners (with the disrespectful and dangerous horses nonetheless, lol).
A boarder called AC on my BO because there was a FILM of ice over the trough last winter...I really can't believe people some times.
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post #20 of 62 Old 01-31-2013, 12:45 AM Thread Starter
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Wow..sounds like what happened to us last year when I was at my previous barn. Except, AC and RSPCA have no right to come onto private property without permission from the owners from what I've been told.

I'd get that looked up and see if you can charge for trespassing (I don't care what they're job is, my property is my property).

Are you by chance in western pa? I wouldn't put it past a few boarders I know that would call on something so stupid because they genuinely feel that they should be the only owners (with the disrespectful and dangerous horses nonetheless, lol).
A boarder called AC on my BO because there was a FILM of ice over the trough last winter...I really can't believe people some times.
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Im in Eastern PA. I dont want to get the SPCA in trouble but I dont want the person who reported it to stalk us or do some thing crazy seeing as she reported us for having horses out in the rain. :( You know how the rain has been in PA.
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