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  • Crossing state line with no brand
  • Brand inspection requirerment for horses in ca

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    07-31-2013, 07:41 PM
  #11
Trained
I should add that you are supposed to show proof of ownership, like a bill of sale. But all the brand inspectors we have used, we know personally and knew are horses from coming out when we shipped truck loads of cattle. (which we were required to have a brand inspection on all cattle as well).
If I were you I would just call up a brand inspector, say you need an inspection to move across state lines to CA. If they ask for proof of ownership show them registration papers and/or the original bill of sale you got from the breeder. Shouldn't be a big deal.

Morganarab94- Almost all western states have a livestock dept that records brands for livestock and the paper trail that ensues for the purpose of anti-theft and disease control. Brand inspections are required for transportation of livestock out of districts and state lines, transfer of ownership and slaughter.
     
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    07-31-2013, 07:44 PM
  #12
Yearling
Wow, I have never heard of this before. Is it supposed to be required for all horse sales or just branded horses? I ask because when I looked it up I found that all cattle sold in my state are supposed to have a brand inspection done even if they aren't branded.
     
    07-31-2013, 07:47 PM
  #13
Trained
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Originally Posted by TessaMay    
Wow, I have never heard of this before. Is it supposed to be required for all horse sales or just branded horses? I ask because when I looked it up I found that all cattle sold in my state are supposed to have a brand inspection done even if they aren't branded.
Horses as well, branded or not.
     
    07-31-2013, 10:31 PM
  #14
Foal
Thank you COWCHICK77 you have been a lot of help.

Does anyone even know what price range the fines may be in??

Also in addition, I finally got in touch with the breeder and she told me that where she was (Lakehead, Ca.), that BI aren't required. Any thoughts on that? If it's true that may help me a little but I still brought her here in the first place without one.
     
    07-31-2013, 10:44 PM
  #15
Trained
As far is I know, BI is not required for horses in CA. Papered horse registered in your name, or a notarized Bill of Sale in case of an unpapered horse, plus of course required health certificate and current negative Coggins.
If you Google BI California, all info should come up.
     
    07-31-2013, 11:15 PM
  #16
Foal
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Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman    
As far is I know, BI is not required for horses in CA. Papered horse registered in your name, or a notarized Bill of Sale in case of an unpapered horse, plus of course required health certificate and current negative Coggins.
If you Google BI California, all info should come up.

Thank you! Hopefully that will help me out a little. Still need to figure out the original trip out to Montana...
     
    08-01-2013, 01:05 AM
  #17
Trained
According to this, you need one anyway:
Montana Department of Livestock - Health Requirements
     
    08-01-2013, 07:54 AM
  #18
Cat
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Originally Posted by COWCHICK77    
When you cross the border into CA you HAVE to show your health papers, brand inspection and have an exact address of where you will be staying or moving to in CA.
We were back and forth from NV to CA this spring shipping cattle and hauling our horses back and forth and at the port of entry we were required to aside and bring all of our paperwork inside. Of course you get around the port of entries, depends on where you are entering the state at.

I thought you could get a Brand Inspection done upon entering a state that required one as long as you had the other required documentation and proof of ownership? A friend that moved out to Wyoming had to get one right after she crossed the state lines because she came from a state that didn't have brand inspectors so its was pretty much impossible to already have a brand inspection in hand before entering the state.
     
    08-01-2013, 12:16 PM
  #19
Trained
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Originally Posted by Cat    
I thought you could get a Brand Inspection done upon entering a state that required one as long as you had the other required documentation and proof of ownership? A friend that moved out to Wyoming had to get one right after she crossed the state lines because she came from a state that didn't have brand inspectors so its was pretty much impossible to already have a brand inspection in hand before entering the state.
As I understand it and I may be totally wrong, every states requirements are different, but you need to follow the requirements of state you are coming from. Since we were coming from NV into CA, I must have a NV brand inspection/transportation permit.
The OP is coming from MT so she must follow the laws of MT brand inspection no matter if Idaho, Oregon or CA ask for it or not. If any of the states she will be travelling through requires a brand inspection and they ask to see one, she will need her MT one, not a brand inspection for the state she happens to be traveling through.
Once she moves to CA and travels she will have to follow CA inspection laws.

In your friends case that would be correct, again from how I understand it, since she came from a state that doesn't require a brand inspection or doesn't have a livestock dept. WY required her to have one to travel within the state and they obviously enforced it.
Some states are stricter about it than others. NV is strict and in the eastern part of the state they will pull you over and check.
Coming into CA over I80 they used to pull in all the hay trucks for hay inspection and you had to get stamped, but now they wave them all through(except for weight) and they pull in(at the bug check) all the pickup and trailers hauling livestock and you must show all your paperwork plus write down the exact address you are traveling to with your phone number.
     
    08-01-2013, 03:12 PM
  #20
Yearling
Just out of curiosity, as us folks on the east coast don't have things like brand inspections :) (Only a requirement for health certs and under 6 month old coggins), how would that work on say horses being transported by a commercial equine transportation company..say from east to west coast? (ie, a buyer on the west coast makes a purchase of a horse on the east coast and uses a commercial shipper to transport).
     

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