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    11-21-2010, 01:12 PM
  #21
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by equiniphile    
^Wow, that doesn't sound too fun.

Like kevin said, it doesn't matter since it's not in season anyway. The animal control is back there now....
He didnt say it wasnt in season, but if it is not in season.

Wounded animals can go a long ways. Farther then what you woud expect. So now, because you have gotten animal control involved, that meat might go to waste....instead of feeding the family it was intended for.
     
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    11-21-2010, 02:08 PM
  #22
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Originally Posted by equiniphile    
It's not in our hands anymore, it's in the hands of AC or the Wildlife Division or whoever is handling it now. You can't deny it was wrong to shoot a deer with a gun when it's not hunting season....especially since we have deer hunters who abide by the rules and don't go out with a gun until hunting season! That's not fair, IMO. That was no 17-yr old kid, there was one MAN, and he had no right to shoot a deer with a gun while breaking the law. If he had been a legitimate hunter with a bow and arrow or a kid with him, you would think he would have come over to where we were and talked it through rather than speed away at the mention of the police. He gave himself away when he said he shot it on his property, because where he was standing was the property of our neighbor's neighbors.

Serious? I would not have came on your property. You are yelling about calling the police and I read the laws of Ohio concerning shooting a deer and not being able to retrieve it without written permission of the land owner.

Your family imo handled this very poorly. You don't know who it was, you do not know if the man had a young hunter with him, you did not see anyone, you pointed fingers and called police.

What county are you located in?
     
    11-21-2010, 06:14 PM
  #23
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by WickedNag    
Serious? I would not have came on your property. You are yelling about calling the police and I read the laws of Ohio concerning shooting a deer and not being able to retrieve it without written permission of the land owner.

Your family imo handled this very poorly. You don't know who it was, you do not know if the man had a young hunter with him, you did not see anyone, you pointed fingers and called police.

What county are you located in?
How did they handle it poorly? They questioned the person, he took off, they called the authorities and said who they thought it was. That's what I would have done. And no not everyone is going to run out and butcher a
Dead deer taht is dead in there yard. They could have been charged with poaching, they may not have the knowledge to cut it up or have a freezer for it either.
     
    11-21-2010, 07:54 PM
  #24
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Originally Posted by churumbeque    
How did they handle it poorly? They questioned the person, he took off, they called the authorities and said who they thought it was. That's what I would have done. And no not everyone is going to run out and butcher a
Dead deer taht is dead in there yard. They could have been charged with poaching, they may not have the knowledge to cut it up or have a freezer for it either.
Instead of hollaring at the man and telling him they were calling the police, they could have talked to him. They could have found out if it was a man with a young hunter. Instead they are yelling at him that he is not to come on their property. Ohio doesn't let you retrieve a dead or wounded animal on someone else's property without written permission. They may have very well freaked the guy out when they said they were calling the police.

I didn't expect them to cut it up. I would have handled it differently so that the animal didn't go to waste. There are also laws in effect in Ohio for animals that are destroying crops. That very well could have been the case also but of course, we don't know as the property owners didn't ask any questions. Just seen a dead deer and assumed it was shot on their property.

The OP has this guy tried and convicted without a trial or even knowing who it is. I guess if they had been serious about thinking this animal was poached they would have let him approach so they could have identified him.

I just hate to see anyone jump to conclusion when it comes to firearms, hunting laws and maybe making false accusations against someone.
     
    11-21-2010, 08:27 PM
  #25
Yearling
I'm thinking, the bigger issue here is that you are on a horse in the middle of (your) property where someone has shot a deer and is undoubtedly nearby WITH A LETHAL WEAPON. I would definitely want to make sure that I got out of there safely and called law enforcement to deal with the poacher and the dead deer. A dead deer is not as big of a deal to me as a dead horse or a dead daughter....I would assume that if someone was shooting that close to residental areas, there's no guarantee that you aren't in the line of fire if they thought you were a deer or there was a stray bullet. Yikes! Some poachers don't respect human life - in the midwest, recently a conservation agent was killed in the line of duty. In a perfect world, everybody would be safe and the poacher would be convicted and the deer would be in the freezer, but I'd settle for the first two if I had to pick 2 out of 3.
     
    11-21-2010, 08:56 PM
  #26
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I still have to disagree. I very much doubt the hunter was wanting to kill me or my horse. I am betting he would have liked to retrieve his deer. The OP said the guy she accused lived a mile away from her. That is not what I would consider close to a residential area. He may have very well been on his own property when he shot the deer.

For the sake of debate I like putting stuff out there and it always seems to work :) I still give the hunter the benefit of doubt
     
    11-21-2010, 09:31 PM
  #27
Yearling
I'm a cautious type of person in some ways, I guess. I don't think hunters intend to kill people or horses...I do think that hunters don't always know where their bullets are going to end up.

My dad was an avid hunter and a great sportsman, so I know how it's supposed to be. Once out riding when I was a boarder at a friend's place, I had to tell her about a big corn feeder set up on her property by deer hunter/neighbors....she was always hearing them shooting, she just never realized they were using her property, too, at least to bait the deer.

This afternoon, in the hour or so before dusk, I was trail riding near the woods on my neighbors' property and saw a strange pickup parked under some trees about half-mile from the road. It's a nice day so I thought he might be fishing in a nearby pond, though I couldn't see anyone. However, it was also nearly dusk and I wasn't sure what hunting season we're in, and this is an agricultural area where the neighbors have permission to hire sharpshooters to deal with coyotes that are getting after the livestock. Anyway, in case the truck was there for hunters or on coyote business, I left the pasture. I knew they probably didn't know that I had open-ended permission to be on the same property and they would assume there was nothing in that pasture except them, so I might interfere with what they were doing or might be in their field of fire.

So, I gave them the benefit of the doubt but I got my butt (and my horse's butt) out of there. It was a nice little excuse to practice a canter on my gaited mare!
     
    11-21-2010, 10:04 PM
  #28
Green Broke
It is still November, so it is possible that some hunting seasons are open. OP, sorry if I am wrong, but it doesnt seem like you are that familiar with what seasons are when....so this guy could be a totally legit hunter.
     
    11-22-2010, 06:42 AM
  #29
Banned
The OP appears to be in Ohio, here is a link to the Ohio hunting seasons.

Ohio Hunting Season Dates and Bag Limits

So yes, it was open to youth hunting.

I totally agree with WickedNag on this one. This was handled poorly.
Let the hunter collect the deer, then the meat will not go to waste.

And like has been stated many times, a shot deer can travel a very long distance before it drops. It is not like the movies. They do not just splat on the ground with four legs in the air.
     
    11-22-2010, 07:16 AM
  #30
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AB that is where I did my research too. Ohio also have crop damage permits. Not that I think shooting one deer is going to prevent crop damage but I am not the law maker there. There is not a season from what I read about when you can shoot a deer with a crop damage permit.
     

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